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John Hepworth said:
What I have noticed is that when entering my user-name (real name) when the auto fill kicks in after typing the first letter it is not recognised and I have to type the whole of my name in.
This also happens quite often on the Chub Study Group's forum, Chub Chat.
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That's got nothing to do with the site, auto fill is a function of your browser.
 
I've just waded through this thread, seems to me there are a lot of very suspicious people out there, is this suspicion the true legacy of “The Barbel Society�

I must admit I never joined, in fact the only fishing “organisation†(other than fishing clubs and this forum) I have ever joined is The W.B.C.

The reason I have kept away is the fact that these “organisations†seem to bring out the worst in people and as I can have an argument in an empty room it always seemed a good idea to keep away!

I did toy with joining The Barbel Society for a while but I was put off by a BS member who gave me a bankside lecture on how I should and should not fish for Barbel, I was told that I was obviously not a “proper†Barbel angler because I did not have “the right†tackle!
Apparently as I choose not to fish with 2.5lb test curve rod, at night, with a Donkey Choker pellet, I could not possibly be a serious Barbel angler!!
I must admit I chose to ignore this BS member; he obviously did not like me fishing for “his†Barbel with my float gear, his problem not mine, yet the self same thing happened to me again this season at Fishers Green, again I was told that I should not fish for Barbel with my light float tackle, I wouldn’t mind but as I was fishing for the Chub at the time this second “lecture†was a little wasted on me, however as a parting shot I was told to read the notice about Barbel care posted on the gate!!!!!!

What is it that makes these BS members so right and me so wrong?
And why do they take it upon themselves to be so dogmatic, surely I can choose to fish for Barbel in any way I damn well like!

So as I am not a “proper Barbel angler†I decided not to join the BS.


At The W.B.C we exchange information:- swims, baits, methods and ideas, freely and honestly, I don’t judge how other members fish and they don’t judge me, we have developed a strong bond of friendship through trust and respect, surely this is what angling is all about!

I wish The Association of Barbel Fishers the very best of luck and I hope they grow to become all that they wish for themselves, but I would urge them to avoid becoming as dogmatic as some of the Barbel Society members I have come across.

Tight Lines Chaps.
 
Keith,
To be fair not all BS membes are like that, there used to be some good folks, surely still is the odd one or two.

There certainly wont be any preeching to anyone from the AoBF.

Spot that Steve?,..... AoBF. :rolleyes:
 
Keith your sounding like a grizzly bear growling, it must be that beard of yours:D:D hope you and mike are keeping well mate:)
 
Keith Speer said:
I've just waded through this thread, seems to me there are a lot of very suspicious people out there, is this suspicion the true legacy of “The Barbel Society�

I must admit I never joined, in fact the only fishing “organisation†(other than fishing clubs and this forum) I have ever joined is The W.B.C.

The reason I have kept away is the fact that these “organisations†seem to bring out the worst in people and as I can have an argument in an empty room it always seemed a good idea to keep away!

I did toy with joining The Barbel Society for a while but I was put off by a BS member who gave me a bankside lecture on how I should and should not fish for Barbel, I was told that I was obviously not a “proper†Barbel angler because I did not have “the right†tackle!
Apparently as I choose not to fish with 2.5lb test curve rod, at night, with a Donkey Choker pellet, I could not possibly be a serious Barbel angler!!
I must admit I chose to ignore this BS member; he obviously did not like me fishing for “his†Barbel with my float gear, his problem not mine, yet the self same thing happened to me again this season at Fishers Green, again I was told that I should not fish for Barbel with my light float tackle, I wouldn’t mind but as I was fishing for the Chub at the time this second “lecture†was a little wasted on me, however as a parting shot I was told to read the notice about Barbel care posted on the gate!!!!!!

What is it that makes these BS members so right and me so wrong?
And why do they take it upon themselves to be so dogmatic, surely I can choose to fish for Barbel in any way I damn well like!

So as I am not a “proper Barbel angler†I decided not to join the BS.


At The W.B.C we exchange information:- swims, baits, methods and ideas, freely and honestly, I don’t judge how other members fish and they don’t judge me, we have developed a strong bond of friendship through trust and respect, surely this is what angling is all about!

I wish The Association of Barbel Fishers the very best of luck and I hope they grow to become all that they wish for themselves, but I would urge them to avoid becoming as dogmatic as some of the Barbel Society members I have come across.

Tight Lines Chaps.
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Do you not think that that's a little judgemental?
 
Damien you are probably right!!

But I can only speak from my own experience, both on the bankside and elsewhere!

I probably know quite a few BS members that are very nice chaps, they have never rubbed me up the wrong way and are, as such part of the silent majority, however I also know of a very few that worked hard to make a difference and have fallen out big time with the BS!

As I said I can have an argument in a room on my own so it is probably best that I did not get involved!
As I attend numerous organisations meetings, all of which are, I hope, of benefit to anglers and angling in general, I find my time a little limited, for me to join an organisation where I know I am going to have an alternative point of view would be a mistake and as I am a little forthright I thought it best to keep away!!
 
No one can say anything about your experiences Kieth, they are yours!
I just thought that it a little harsh to write-off a whole organisation on account of those experiences with two members. It's an organisation with around 700 people and to make a judgement of who they are and how they might act, is a little beyond the indoctrination with which you'd have them inflicted with.
The BS may not be all things to everyone, nor any other organisation for that matter, but every member is entitled to an opinion, varying of the majority or not.
You are who you are, and it's something to be happy about.
 
Hi Damion, 700 Members, I heard from a good source that its nearer 400 and dropping fast, But must say there are a lot of good blokes still left in The Barbel Society.

Regards Ray Thorpe
 
Hi Ray,

Hope all is well.

Your "good source" is way, way off the mark and members are joining us all the time.

For sure the numbers are not the same as in the boom years, but we have a very strong loyal support and that is likely to grow again as we embark on more conservation projects.

And as you say there are a lot of good blokes in the BS, in fact every single one of them!

May see you on the Kennet again in the new year.


All the best,

Steve.
 
I am in no way saying this organisation is bad or good..But all these organisations do they really make a difference?..We anglers are constantly being told our rivers are not what they used to be due to many factors and also told thats just the way it is now, so i do have to ask myself what difference will any organisation make?.. As i have said before i am no expert but surely if current organisations are failing now,what difference is another going to make?..I dont for one minute wish to undermine any work that any organisations do but on the bigger picture it really is insignificant due to the original underlying problems not known or not being able to address fully..I wish this organisation every success but do question as to if it really will..
 
Craig, I suspect that the Committee of the AoBF know their limitations with regards national influence. However, I like the concept of 'Away Days' and charity 'fish-ins'. Strikes me as being a pretty light-hearted organisation which certainly suits me.

Cheers,

Gavin
 
Please don't let this thread descend into a battle between the barbel groups, that is not what it is al about.

If the new group just becomes a social group then that's fine by me.
If the new group raises money for charity along the way, that's fine by me.
If they get waters to fish, tackle deals, arrange fish in's etc " " " "

What it is all about, in my mind, is that it will all be done for the group and it will all will be done with majority consent. That is not a slant directed at any other group, just a huge plus point for the new ABF and testament to the hard work done by the likes of Conrad.

The time for comparison (if you must do it) will be in 1, 2 or maybe 5 years time.
 
Fred ,
If the rivers are not able to sustain the stock of Barbel ,or recruitment of said species ,then what is the point of stocking yet more ? Otter food ?

What does happen in time is natural recruitment by nature will stock those rivers full of smaller,more plentiful species so creating a more natural balance for nature to re adjust .

It is already happening on many rivers.

I am all for bankside work ,for all habitat ,including foliage ,but WHY is it just Barbel you are concerned with,that in my opinion is selfish and not seeing the bigger picture.

As for yet another Barbel Group ?
Truthfully there is so much division already it will further weaken what is already present ,in whatever format.
Now an all species group,not self centred on one species to the seclusion of all others in surely better,encompassing match,pleasure and specialist anglers alike.

Good luck to all of you defending your respective groups ,and personally whatever the numbers involved ,just enjoy your fishing,whatever the species,big or small,angling is struggling as it is without more division.
Regards all,
Pons
 
Chris,
"Truthfully there is so much division already it will further weaken what is already present ,in whatever format."

I think Fred's doing a good enough job of that himself without any help:D
 
Chris Ponsford said:
Fred ,
If the rivers are not able to sustain the stock of Barbel ,or recruitment of said species ,then what is the point of stocking yet more ? Otter food ?

What does happen in time is natural recruitment by nature will stock those rivers full of smaller,more plentiful species so creating a more natural balance for nature to re adjust .

It is already happening on many rivers.

I am all for bankside work ,for all habitat ,including foliage ,but WHY is it just Barbel you are concerned with,that in my opinion is selfish and not seeing the bigger picture.

As for yet another Barbel Group ?
Truthfully there is so much division already it will further weaken what is already present ,in whatever format.
Now an all species group,not self centred on one species to the seclusion of all others in surely better,encompassing match,pleasure and specialist anglers alike.

Good luck to all of you defending your respective groups ,and personally whatever the numbers involved ,just enjoy your fishing,whatever the species,big or small,angling is struggling as it is without more division.
Regards all,
Pons
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Some excellent points there Chris, as I want our rivers improved as diverse fisheries and certainly not in favour of interests in one species to the detriment of another. Natural like, not via introductions.;)

Which leads nicely to; Fred, why are the Barbel Society actively encouraging stockings of an invasive alien species (barbel) to rivers like the Dane, the fish isn't indigenous to the river, it has no long term history as a barbel fishery like the Dorset Stour (stocked over a century ago).
So apart from self interest why?

Until such time as I get a feel for the ABF's members stance on this, I'm holding hard.....
My interest lays with rivers thriving and not promoting one species, I mean how would most barbel anglers feel if I stocked a couple thousand barbel into the Teme, Dane or Goyt, same thing is it not?
 
Fred, I have emailed the BS in the past but am yet to receive even an acknowledgement of receipt of said message (which was opened because I got my message opened receipt) but like I said in my last post, its this same reservation that stops me joining the ABF.
 
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