Paul, yes i agree in part that there is a trend in some carp men to out drink or out catch or outdo anything any one else is doing/done at all costs,
i seldom went to the barge but yes theres times when i did, sometimes to socialise or meet others, what i am saying is basically theres still plenty of guys that do things in moderation rather than over the top fashion,
unfortunately for some of us olduns who maybe crept out fishing late at night and hid in the undergrowth in daylight to stop guys pinpointing where and what we were fishing for, you know before the matt black days
now the new generation holds things in a different perspective but! theyre still putting em on the bank, yes more much more carp around these days but no more blanking for a season sometimes eh
, the picture i percieved from this thread
took appearance of others appearing to take the attitude of oh its just another big carp died and cant stand the antics of guys that fish for them
what i was saying basically is its a big whack in the nuts for fishing to lose a massive specimen and that goes for all species,
maybe i have misunderstood what i read or maybe i didnt, either way its the way i percieved it, reguards...j.w