Adrian Cole
Senior Member
hmm now you have got to start matching zips between manufacturers and thats not easy/cheap. I believe the brief in the first place was to keep it simple.
Cheers
Adie
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Stalker Roving Seat (bum buddy)
- Thread starter Neil Rogers
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hmm now you have got to start matching zips between manufacturers and thats not easy/cheap. I believe the brief in the first place was to keep it simple.
Cheers
Adie
Geoff Blakesley
Senior Member
Seats like that have been available at cambridge folk festival as long as I remember!
Ramon San Juan
Senior Member
simple is one thing... useful is another! I cycle everywhere so very carefull about what i use. It must have as many uses as i can squeeze out of it.
Adrian Williams
No Longer a Member
Tom, I've been on the beer all day so excuse me...........I love the way you have taken a random link from a quick google surf and found a diamond. I might just buy the realtree one just to be different.
Anthony, You need to take more time over reading posts, I only use the bum buddy for roving, I've got a Korum tabletop ruckbag which I use for my long sessions. I couple it up with a 5 year old Terry Hern lightweight chair. It's a great bit of kit apart from the superfluous bit of padding stored in the top pocket, I cut mine out and use the pocket for a lightweight breathable fleece.
Actually Anthony I've just read your last post and realised you have not got the faintest clue what you are talking about.
Martyn Lloyd
Senior Member
Some interesting points and opinions gents! Not everyone will like these. We accept that, its just the way of the world. I don`t like Renaults but that doesn`t mean they`re rubbish! We`re trying to get a product on the shelves that you guys actually want, not one that will make do. The picture I attached last week was the first design. Its not necessarily the one we`ll run with but its a starting point and we have to start somewhere eh!
The pocket / removable bag idea is certainly a consideration now. I`d never thought about that one! A simple fix for the problem of overbalancing. Thats the stuff we like! Top clips for attaching to bags, another good point. We wouldn`t go down the route of designing something that attaches to, say, a Korum bag. If we did something like that it would be made to fit a Precision bag!
Our main concern with this is cost. Ok, we can work on an all singing all dancing Bankmaster but when it hits the shops no-ones going to buy it if the price isn`t right! Its a conundrum. The more the manufacturing cost goes up the more they`ll go on the shelves for.
Ok, lets move this one step forward. The removable bags, we`d look to attach them via clips at the top and maybe a press stud (or something similar) on the bottom to stop them flapping around. What would you like to see in the way of capacity?
The pocket / removable bag idea is certainly a consideration now. I`d never thought about that one! A simple fix for the problem of overbalancing. Thats the stuff we like! Top clips for attaching to bags, another good point. We wouldn`t go down the route of designing something that attaches to, say, a Korum bag. If we did something like that it would be made to fit a Precision bag!
Our main concern with this is cost. Ok, we can work on an all singing all dancing Bankmaster but when it hits the shops no-ones going to buy it if the price isn`t right! Its a conundrum. The more the manufacturing cost goes up the more they`ll go on the shelves for.
Ok, lets move this one step forward. The removable bags, we`d look to attach them via clips at the top and maybe a press stud (or something similar) on the bottom to stop them flapping around. What would you like to see in the way of capacity?
Chris Jones
Senior Member
From my pov, I'd want a seat to be a seat, not much more. I don't want pockets in it. I do like the idea of a pegging point to stop it blowing away. I do like the idea of a clip of some description to tag it onto another bit of kit when carrying.
More than anything else I want padding for my backside, a bit of support for my dodgy back and a degree of waterproofing so I don't get a wet arse.
More than anything else I want padding for my backside, a bit of support for my dodgy back and a degree of waterproofing so I don't get a wet arse.
Martyn Lloyd
Senior Member
Like it!
Dean Aston
Senior Member
I dont think some people are getting it on here dont want to sound rude. Why would you want to add a ruckbag ? might as well add the chair . This kind of seat is for roaming . I use one of Martyns seat today all I took was a rod, landing net and a small bag keep my baits and bits in and some food . Im only in a swim 20 mins tops when roaming . No need for a big pocket etc as all bits are in my small bag with camera etc in. More weight add less you want to move swims . You dont need banks to be flat use one of these seats every swim I wanted to fish I did. Not going to comment on the seat its self till I used it a lot more but theses seats are for roaming so lightness is the key .
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Anthony Pearson
Senior Member
Cheers for that Adrian. I take it that you are unchallenged fountain of all knowledge?
Perhaps we have different ideas of roving. On my river I can walk four miles and drop into virtually unfished water throughout its length. As such, I need room for food, drink, waterproofs (it's tough up north) and a folding shovel etc. and don't carry a chair as the banks are too steep. I may be out for the whole day, so a ruckbag is a necessity and a well designed bum buddy will make it much more comfortable.
Ramon San Juan
Senior Member
It will have pegging points... can you not just use the rings and a clip and attach it to your ruckbag? If you need a ruckbag to go fishing, this seat is not going to be difficult to carry with the rest of you stuff!
It would be nice to have a small removeable bag for the odd extras like scales, small tackle box (just in case of tree casts) small amount of bait.. Around 5 litres, For that light rove couple of hour fish!
Jim Foxall
Senior Member
I've only just had a look at this post and from my experience, these sort of "seats" are totally useless. They either slide all over the place or tip up. Utter pants.
Craig Wood
Senior Member
I must say Jim i do enjoy reading your posts..
..Straight to the point.....On a serious note ive found a big beany type carp un hooking mat to be just the job but like anything that is not off the ground they are useless if the ground is wet and your asking for piles..
..Straight to the point.....On a serious note ive found a big beany type carp un hooking mat to be just the job but like anything that is not off the ground they are useless if the ground is wet and your asking for piles..Jim Foxall
Senior Member
I must say Jim i do enjoy reading your posts..
Thanks, Craig, I do like to inject a bit of humour, with a heartfelt undertone. By the way, Steve Parton does market a "pile buster" seat, see flyschool1 (or Sparton Tackle.
Andreas Opitz
Senior Member
If I were to approach a concept like this I'd aim at producing a basic version and deluxe version.
I'd maybe concentrate on the basic version initially in order to generate revenue for producing a deluxe version (if revenue was an issue that is). That way over time you'd cover whatever market was out there. Should one be more successful than the other, then naturally I'd market that idea heavily and maybe even consider some kind of hybrid in the future.
Personally these chairs are of no use to me but I can see that they could be useful to rovers on the odd occasion. Good luck with it Martin. It's good to see someone get up of their backside and do something like this.
I'd maybe concentrate on the basic version initially in order to generate revenue for producing a deluxe version (if revenue was an issue that is). That way over time you'd cover whatever market was out there. Should one be more successful than the other, then naturally I'd market that idea heavily and maybe even consider some kind of hybrid in the future.
Personally these chairs are of no use to me but I can see that they could be useful to rovers on the odd occasion. Good luck with it Martin. It's good to see someone get up of their backside and do something like this.
Andrew Green
Senior Member
just been googling to find a roving seat and got a link back here. just thinking a big enough pocket at the back for a sandwich/tackle box and a webbing bottle holder would be nice on the deluxe. many times i spent hours fish watching from an unhooking mat feeling hungry and thirsty with a back ache because i didn't want to carry extra bags. being able to use the side supports as shoulder straps, like a rucksack might be an idea too
Paul Boote
No Longer a Member
The Chairman on Monday
Just a thought.
Might it be time for a "Vintage Marco-Dragon Doo-Dah" thread in which lots of misty-eyed gents reminisce about the "the classics" and "the great generation", the M-D D-D reels made before, say, October 2010...?
An Owners Club, too? Definitely an Annual Conclave / Convention with a number of my L.G.'s present...
Just a thought.
As ever,
B.B.
Just a thought.
Might it be time for a "Vintage Marco-Dragon Doo-Dah" thread in which lots of misty-eyed gents reminisce about the "the classics" and "the great generation", the M-D D-D reels made before, say, October 2010...?
An Owners Club, too? Definitely an Annual Conclave / Convention with a number of my L.G.'s present...
Just a thought.
As ever,
B.B.
Paul Boote
No Longer a Member
Andrew Green
Senior Member
Raymond Blyth
New Member
have used gardeners kneeling mat for more years than i care to remember - just make sure you put damp side down - can be bought in d.i.y.stores and garden centres for two or three quid
