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Severn river trust

Its funny we as Barbel anglers talk about the damage that otters have caused to the fish populations across the Uk . We talk about non native Crayfish . We talk about Cormorants and the damage they have done to fish stocks .

The one predator we as anglers don't seem to mention is Zander ? They are not a native species to our river systems and were introduced illegally to our water ways many years ago ? I wonder how much damage they gave caused to our native fish stocks over the years ?

I wonder all you guys out there that are in favour of culling Otters ? Would agree to making a start in removing Zander from our rivers ?
 
David Gauntlett said:
Joe, I am aware of the invasive plant species which cause problems on the Teme, and came across a similar list to that you have shown. However, in the paper I am quoting from, it ref
ers to these as 'invasive PLANT species' rather than just 'invasive species'. I assume that when they omit the qualifying word 'Plant', they are referring to something else.

Cheers, Dave
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I think your reading too much into it Dave. As I've already stated the report doesn't refer, or in anyway allude, to coarse fish (including barbel) as being negative to the ecology of the river.

The JBA report also states:

'The River Teme can be divided into three zones for the purpose of this restoration project:
- Barbel zone: From Tenbury Wells downstream to confluence
- Grayling zone: from Knighton to Tenbury Wells.
- Trout zone: upstream of Knighton'
 
Surely if they wanted to rid the teme of barbel they'd have to rid the severn of them too? Can't see either of those happening even if they wanted it to, so I'd say it's a safe bet barbel are not on their 'hit list'.
 
Rhys Perry said:
Surely if they wanted to rid the teme of barbel they'd have to rid the severn of them too? Can't see either of those happening even if they wanted it to, so I'd say it's a safe bet barbel are not on their 'hit list'.
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Clutching at straws in their peddling of paranoia!
 
Exactly.
I think we need to ban all conservationists from entering the teme until we can figure out what's going on. We have no choice. :)
 
Joe Fletcher said:
Its funny we as Barbel anglers talk about the damage that otters have caused to the fish populations across the Uk . We talk about non native Crayfish . We talk about Cormorants and the damage they have done to fish stocks .

The one predator we as anglers don't seem to mention is Zander ? They are not a native species to our river systems and were introduced illegally to our water ways many years ago ? I wonder how much damage they gave caused to our native fish stocks over the years ?

I wonder all you guys out there that are in favour of culling Otters ? Would agree to making a start in removing Zander from our rivers ?
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They were original stocked into Woburn in 1878 perfectly legally, others were stocked into the relief channel perfectly legally, Barbel are not native in some of our rivers perhaps they should also be culled so that species native to the river have less competition.
 
Graham Young said:
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They were original stocked into Woburn in 1878 perfectly legally, others were stocked into the relief channel perfectly legally, Barbel are not native in some of our rivers perhaps they should also be culled so that species native to the river have less competition.
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How dare you Graham! People have been fishing the Teme for barbel, well, for much longer than other people...
 
I reckon having a 'child-like mind' is overrated. But, if you do retain such a mind then I s'pose there'll always be Father Christmas to look forward to:)
 
Graham Young said:
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They were original stocked into Woburn in 1878 perfectly legally, others were stocked into the relief channel perfectly legally, Barbel are not native in some of our rivers perhaps they should also be culled so that species native to the river have less competition.
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Graham it don't matter when and where they were stocked ? Zander are not a indigenous species to the the UK . Zander are not native to any river or waterway in the UK

http://www2.hull.ac.uk/science/PDF/Nunnetal07f.pdf
 
Terry Simner said:
I reckon having a 'child-like mind' is overrated. But, if you do retain such a mind then I s'pose there'll always be Father Christmas to look forward to:)
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Very sorry Terry, but I do have real trouble with people who by saying such things would have their opinion qualified, or by those who try to put words into the mouths others to strengthen theirs. Only a matter of a few posts ago we were just short of accusing the authorities involved here of trying to rid a river system of barbel. I mean really, let's please wake up and smell the coffee.
 
Eeeeer, I'm quoting 'your' Lao Tzu Damian... "Retain the mind like that of a child, which flows like running water.
Remember him, yeah?
 
The point being Terry?
 
I'm not entirely sure Damian....I refer you to Lao Tzu. But I reckon the guy should have said.... "Eeeeeh lad, when you've nowt useful to say, say nowt"
 
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