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Hardy marksman supero barbel rods.....

The TT float rods are beyond my "worth a blind punt" prices. The reel seats not being genuine Fuji puts me off. I expect premium fittings on a premium priced rod. The notion of them being "improved" Hardy Marksman rods requires more than just a sales pitch to be taken at face value, especially when I didn't think enough of the Hardy rods to pay hugely discounted prices when they were discontinued. I regret that decision, but it has nothing to do with wishing I owned them and everything to do with missing the chance to make a pile of cash. Hardy is a name that people throw cash at, Thomas Turner is not.
 
Chris Jones said:
The TT float rods are beyond my "worth a blind punt" prices. The reel seats not being genuine Fuji puts me off. I expect premium fittings on a premium priced rod. The notion of them being "improved" Hardy Marksman rods requires more than just a sales pitch to be taken at face value, especially when I didn't think enough of the Hardy rods to pay hugely discounted prices when they were discontinued. I regret that decision, but it has nothing to do with wishing I owned them and everything to do with missing the chance to make a pile of cash. Hardy is a name that people throw cash at, Thomas Turner is not.
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Find it very difficult to argue with your logic Chris. In fact you say exactly what I think but more eloquently.
 
I am not sure how much improvement has been made in blank technology,
Alec Hague said:
Just coming back to your question Huanzhou, I really would like to try the revamped hardy clone rods specc'd by dave Coster. For the 50 years I worked , I never held a rod. Coming back to fishing after a 50 year gap was extremely interesting and I realized things had changed so much that I started buying , using and selling on to hopefully improve on what I had reels initially and later rods. I have the view that a rod expertly designed 20 years ago, within the parameters of materials then available would ideally be the best there is. The marksman range say is at the pinnacle. But as time passes and materials change can perfection be improved upon? I would say undoubtedly yes, but then I am a idiot of long practice. I would love to handle the new TT rods as against a marksman and truly compare. What is said about the new tt rods maybe just sales hype. If we were talking about a car, most have a dream car or cars in the past we lusted over , but couldn't afford. Drive it 20 years later when used to the myriad improvements made in the intervening years and I defy most not to say, not for me! I have wanted to ask this question before but fear starting a heated debate. That is not my purpose, all views are subjective but the chance to compare marksman then and now I am finding almost irresistible! But I think TT are missing a brilliant opportunity at PR. perhaps there is a reason why they don't issue the challenge. Now that an interesting thought! best wishes Alec
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I am not sure how much improvement has been made in blank technology, but if you look at the top barbel rods available nowadays, e.g, horrison torrix, chimera, guess how old are there blanks? All more than 10-20 years, chimera blanks are even older than marksman, so if marksman outperformed these rods back in 2009, I guess it’s still the case today.
 
Ian Woods said:
It's a 12ft 3 piece rod. It has a carrier section for the quiver tips. The rod is very slim and powerful and could be used to trot a float, but it certainely isn't as lightweight as a designated float rod for that purpose. The rods are so well made and finnished they are nice just to look at!
A few pictures for you Alec....







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Good Morning Ian. I think I have cracked which sections came from where to make up the barbel. Looking at my schedule taken from the supero catalogue and looking at matching line ratings its suggests its the 11.6' avon and the 12 ' extreme feeder..
 
Alec Hague said:
Good Morning Ian. I think I have cracked which sections came from where to make up the barbel. Looking at my schedule taken from the supero catalogue and looking at matching line ratings its suggests its the 11.6' avon and the 12 ' extreme feeder..
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Mornin' Alec.
I have no idea, but if I remember the 11ft 6inch avon rods bottom section is softer than the barbel rod.
Although, after saying that the 11ft 6inch marksman I have is a specialist from the original marksman rods and as you know the barbel rods are supero's. I do have a 11ft 6inch supero rod but it's a 6 piece smuggler version. The bottom section's of the smuggler rod are thicker, so can't see those being the same blank?
Regarding the smuggler rods, the action of both the specialists and the supero rods is imo a little stiffer than the two piece rods, but the action is flawless and there is no sign of any flat spots, I find this amazing considerring the number of spigots used on a relatively short blank!
 
I never used the pre production smuggler in anger I had really. I bought it to go on holiday in France. Blanked the couple of times I used it !Must ask my pal how he gets on with it.
 
Chris Jones said:
The TT float rods are beyond my "worth a blind punt" prices. The reel seats not being genuine Fuji puts me off. I expect premium fittings on a premium priced rod. The notion of them being "improved" Hardy Marksman rods requires more than just a sales pitch to be taken at face value, especially when I didn't think enough of the Hardy rods to pay hugely discounted prices when they were discontinued. I regret that decision, but it has nothing to do with wishing I owned them and everything to do with missing the chance to make a pile of cash. Hardy is a name that people throw cash at, Thomas Turner is not.
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Jon Elliott said:
The 11.6 has a little more back-bone, that correct ?
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Yes, that’s right, and a faster action.
 
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