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The trouble is when it's a potential record even those who pontifficate [sic] the loudest have been shown to be willing to abandon the rule book and ignore best practice in the pursuit of glory, or even someone else's reflected glory.
 
Adrian Williams said:
The trouble is when it's a potential record even those who pontifficate [sic] the loudest have been shown to be willing to abandon the rule book and ignore best practice in the pursuit of glory, or even someone else's reflected glory.
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Adrian,

That rather smacks of double standards doesn't it? Mind you when I was trying to discuss getting rid of the close season on here I was told that catching Barbel when they are about to spawn was just not on......however if you go to the Perch thread you will see anglers stating that now is the time to go for a big one as they are full of spawn...........funny old world 'aint it
 
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Richard Hamlyn said:
Cheers Mike,

That's just the problem, I have no friends to phone...............
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Still not a problem . Follow my previous guidelines , but instead of standing on the net , wedge down with rod rest / tent peg , whatever .. Get camera and scales , weigh and do self portrait fish , quick chat to fish and release . Then you can either submit to trial by photograph on BFW and we can all decide whether it's a record or not . Or keep it to yourself and just look at the photo from time to time and remind yourself of a special moment :D
 
Steve Williams said:
Nothing better than a straight talking, no nonsense yorkshireman.....;)

Richard you could learn a lot from Mike.
Why use 300 words when 30 would do.....

Steve
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Steve. A proper Yorkshireman would have told Richard to say '' now't t'nobody'' and put the fish straight back . I was born in Nottinghamshire and am only' Yorkshire' by long time residence , though some Yorkshire traits have rubbed off on to me over the years :)
 
Mike Hodgkiss said:
Still not a problem . Follow my previous guidelines , but instead of standing on the net , wedge down with rod rest / tent peg , whatever .. Get camera and scales , weigh and do self portrait fish , quick chat to fish and release . Then you can either submit to trial by photograph on BFW and we can all decide whether it's a record or not . Or keep it to yourself and just look at the photo from time to time and remind yourself of a special moment :D
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Mike,

In all seriousness your advice is spot on. Where I fish the banks are steep and there is often a long drop to the water so the fish is netted at full stretch and wedging down the handle really is not an option. But never fear, if I do ever catch that special fish I will holler so loud for help all the folk in the nearby village will hear me.

As to trial by photograph on here I'm not really sure I am brave enough. Perhaps I could put one up and have a guess the weight competition. Anyone interested in that..............I thought not.
 
Richard , people love playing guess the weight on here , put your picture up , and lets have some fun :D They can also play guesss the venue , guess the swim , the list goes on .....
 
Quick question, has anyone on here ACTUALLY seen a fish of any description die in a sack ? now i've been fishing for a good few years (around 40) and i never have, mine nor anyone elses for that matter, bit of common sense and i personally don't see a problem for a short spell to get camera gear sorted out or to revive a struggling fish, yes even the hallowed Barbel !
 
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Ah , but , It depends what kind of sack. Coal sack , grain sack , cotton sack , carp sack , sad sack ? I could go on . How about a '' Queensford retention tube system '' , which is a very posh title for a four foot fine mesh keepnet with a drawstring at each end .I recall the mighty Tony Miles himself saying these were an OK net/ sack . As Simon says , a bit of common sense needs to be applied . Stake whatever you choose out well , don't leave it to long and a fish should be OK for a short period .
 
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I will resist the temptation to call you a Ball sack Mike :) Queenford tubes have sacking sides and mesh ends, they work very well if you can stake them out tight but just a normal Carp sack is fine, in fact better if a Barbel is in trouble as you can prop said fish upright, head upstream with a couple of banksticks if need be.
 
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Back in the 80s and 90s I put hundreds of them in keepnets, and can't recall ever seeing one suffer. in fact most of them are so well rested they give you a right good soaking when you release them.
I'm not sure why you're asking this question Ricko, those small doubles you're catching are hardly worth retaining.
 
Adrian Williams said:
Back in the 80s and 90s I put hundreds of them in keepnets, and can't recall ever seeing one suffer. in fact most of them are so well rested they give you a right good soaking when you release them.
I'm not sure why you're asking this question Ricko, those small doubles you're catching are hardly worth retaining.
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In case he listens to Claude's advice and does better silly!
 
Simon Lush said:
Quick question, has anyone on here ACTUALLY seen a fish of any description die in a sack ? now i've been fishing for a good few years (around 40) and i never have, mine nor anyone elses for that matter, bit of common sense and i personally don't see a problem for a short spell to get camera gear sorted out or to revive a struggling fish, yes even the hallowed Barbel !
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Simon,

Do I detect a fellow soul here? I believe that if enough anglers talk complete rubbish long enough then suddenly it becomes a fact. Not only that but it gets embellished by others who will swear blind "that actually happened to me as well" and then add another totally fictitious account. Don't get me wrong, they mean no real harm, but that does not take away the fact that there is not one shred of evidence to back up the claims and it only passes on ignorance to new anglers.

The fact that I have never had a fish die in a sack and the fact that (like Adrian) I have in my match days released thousands of fish of ALL species and sizes from a keep net and watched them swim away strongly. Lets face it after a match if only 1% of the fish died in everyone's net then there would be ample evidence floating down the river after a weigh in. I admit these are personal experiences and not evidence, but at least I'm being totally honest.

What I have seen is a 12lb+ Barbel caught by a mate and witnessed by myself "rested" in a landing net for over 5 minutes, taken out and quickly photographed and returned to the net for a few minutes where it was very active. On release it immediately went belly up and floated off down the river with the two of us chasing after it and trying to cast a line over it to get it back to shore. About 100 mtrs later it just kicked and dived much to our relief.

The above does not meant that resting in the net is not the best policy, it is just an accurate statement of my previous history with keep nets as well.
 
Neil Smart said:
Like you say keep talking rubbish and it will be regurgitated as fact.
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Neil,

Are you saying that I am talking rubbish or are you referring to rubbish in general as your comment is a little ambiguous. I'm sure it will be the latter..............
 
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