Congratulations Keith....

[Chris Stothard]

Well done Keith. An absolutely stunning achievement.

 

[Mike Wilson]

I hadn't responded to this thread before because I'm totally biased, Keith being one of my fishing friends. I was just waiting today for another jelly like quivering incoherent phone call like last week telling me of his capture. Obviously he didn't catch a 20lb barbel today but I wouldn't bet against him tomorrow !! He is without a doubt the best float angler I have had the pleasure to know and fish with, not only barbel but all species in the UK and Holland.
Very well done Keith. Lets hope the next decade is as good as the last.

Have a super New Year

Mike

 

[Jim Foxall]

I think keith fully deserves all the adulation..perhaps jim you might think different when you catch a barbel of that size..

Craig, it's a cracking fish in anybody's terms. In all seriousness, I'm not at all envious or call it what you like. I love barbel, I love fishing and I like catching fish of any kind as long as they are half decent specimens. The more fishing you do, the more fish that you catch, the greater the likelihood there is of catching a good fish. It's statistics. I have caught my fair share of decent barbel. I have not caught a barbel the size of Keith's fish, because the rivers that I fish simply don't hold them. But for the rivers that I do fish, I have had some top notch fish and I'm happy with that. I wouldn't be surprised if there have been occasions where a record fish has been landed and quietly slipped back - because that is exactly what I would do if I were in that position. I'm just not interested in trophies. Keith's fish is great and is a welcome cheer in the current conditions, but it is not an Earth shattering event which deserves praise from "around the globe". I do think that a sense of proportion is called for.

 

[Paul Boote]

Sense of proportion?

Indeed. Keith has it, some others have it.

Lesson here?

Dont "do" adulation, just go and do it, succeed or fail.

 

[David Gauntlett]

Too much fuss and 'adulation' for some?????

The facts of the matter are that most of us realize that Keith has achieved a feat of angling that we can never realistically hope to emulate. We are quite rightly delighted that such a nice guy and top angler has caught a truly wonderfull fish...and caught that fish not only on the float, but in conditions so trying that incredibly fine tackle was required to tempt it. I would suggest that a catch of that calibre is worthy of every NICE comment made....

The point is though, it wasn't an accident, or luck, or a fluke...it was just the latest success in a line of such events, by one of the finest, most consitent float anglers around...anywhere. When anglers such as Mike Wilson regard Keith as the finest float angler they have ever seen (and he is a long way from being the only person to regard Keith in this way)...then you had better believe it. That makes it even more worthy of the 'fuss', don't you think?

When you also understand that Keith puts a HUGE amount back into the sport he loves, helping others tirelessly and voluntarily spending untold hours helping to make his club one of the best around...then you also understand why this couldn't have happened to a nicer, more deserving guy...and why complaining about folk being happy for him is actually quite sad.

However, if seeing others expressing genuine happiness and good will truly upsets you, or if this is your normal way of expressing your feelings over the festive season, then please don't let me spoil your fun...and a happy new year to you to

Cheers, Dave.

 

[Paul Boote]

Definitely. The selfless, real and true Anglers will always earn and, therefore, deserve others considerable respect (even adulation, on occasion). As for attempted hittings-on, like "Ramblings from old man", both in public as a one-off newbie on a Fly site and as a virtually incoherent personal message on this one ... well, some of us, not many admittedly, are clever and quick enough to see them for what they are :- mere post several drinks, so let's have a go at him, sitting-room opinion, and that, for some, now, it passes as the Only Way (Hit and Run) in Angling these days. Just be thankful that I reply to other-site snipes and to poorly spun PM fishing expeditions here as generously and politely as I do.

 

[David Gauntlett]

Paul,

Based purely on the content of the first sentence in your post, I must assume that the whole bizarre mess purports to be a response to my comments. However, assume is all I can do, because apart from that first sentence, nothing you have said appears to relate to anything I have said (or done) now or at any time, on this site or any other. In fact this is the first forum I have suscribed to, as far as I am aware, where you and I have been members simultaneously.

So, I will put your post down to something composed whilst 'benifiting' from a New Years Eve tipple (or three). As for your claim that I should be 'thankful' for the 'politeness and generosity' of your previous responses (real OR imagined)....I am afraid I must point out that you are obviously confusing me with someone who actually gives a toss what you say or think, one way or the other...sorry about that.

I suppose that I should also point out that my previous post was directed more at Mr Foxall than yourself, not that that matters much now!

Cheers, Dave.

 

[Simon King]

David, I think Paul's affirmitive first word of agreement, was the only one directed at you.

The rest was following the direction of your own well-aimed buckshot.

 

[Mark Gaskell]

What can i say thats not been said already, quality!

 

[Neil Smart]

I think keith fully deserves all the adulation..perhaps jim you might think different when you catch a barbel of that size..

It is as I said along with every one else on here a fantastic achievement, and well deseved, Keith by the way he approaches catching barbel, minimises the failure aspect of what he does. That is the match anglers approach, it is a different approach to what the majority of us do.

However to mention adulation is OTT, the very meaning is ''servile flattery'' which I am sure you would not want attributed to you. As would I am sure Keith would not.

Mind you we have not had the second coming yet, so theres always hope

 

[Jim Foxall]

Making sense

Definitely. The selfless, real and true Anglers will always earn and, therefore, deserve others considerable respect (even adulation, on occasion). As for attempted hittings-on, like "Ramblings from old man", both in public as a one-off newbie on a Fly site and as a virtually incoherent personal message on this one ... well, some of us, not many admittedly, are clever and quick enough to see them for what they are :- mere post several drinks, so let's have a go at him, sitting-room opinion, and that, for some, now, it passes as the Only Way (Hit and Run) in Angling these days. Just be thankful that I reply to other-site snipes and to poorly spun PM fishing expeditions here as generously and politely as I do.

Paul, please don't misunderstand my comment below, but I just can't fathom the context of some of your posts. You might say that I am not blessed with sufficient intelligence to decipher this, and other posts of yours. I have asked someone who is conderably more gifted than I am and they can't follow your latest post either. The problem that I have is that you include sub-clause after sub-clause and the original meaning becomes lost. I prefer to write in short sentences. I feel that way, it is clearer for people to follow a discussion. It's only a suggestion, but it might help others to get to grips with some of your posts and subsequently, be in a better position to provide feedback on your points. I hope that you are not offended by the above, my intention is to be helful. I wish you and all BFW members a happy and successful N.Y.

 

[Will Smith]

Try Google Translate at http://translate.google.com

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[Mark Anderson]

Hi men ,

Will . Funny thing though , when I put the same thing in it says " p****d " !. Perhaps it has trouble working it out sometimes .

Hatter

 

[David Hall]

Dhahiri. Ya anglers selfless, kweli na kweli daima kulipwa na kwa hiyo, wanastahili wengine heshima kubwa (hata sifa nyingi, juu ya tukio). Kama kwa jaribio hittings-juu, kama vile "Ramblings kutoka kwa mtu wa kale ", katika umma kama Newbie moja tu kwenye tovuti Fly na kama karibu incoherent ujumbe binafsi juu ya hili moja ... vizuri, baadhi yetu, si wengi admittedly, ni wajanja na ya haraka ya kutosha kuona kwa nini wao ni: - tu baada kadhaa vinywaji, hivyo basi kuwa na kwenda naye, ameketi-chumba maoni, na kwamba, kwa baadhi, sasa, yake hupita kama njia pekee ( Hit na Run) katika Angling siku hizi. Tu kushukuru kwamba mimi jibu kwa snipes nyingine-site na hafifu spun AM uvuvi expeditions hapa kama ukarimu na upole kama mimi.

swahili, i can understand it now.

 

[Stuart Wright]

Try Google Translate at http://translate.google.com

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Very funny indeed!

 

[Robin Bowes]

Keith's fish is great and is a welcome cheer in the current conditions, but it is not an Earth shattering event which deserves praise from "around the globe". I do think that a sense of proportion is called for.

Jim,

I'm not sure which bit you're having trouble understanding:

1. This is a discussion forum dedicated to barbel fishing
2. Barbel are powerful fish, ie. strong tackle is often used
3. Barbel generally prefer warmer conditions
4. Barbel are most commonly caught using legering tactics
5. Keith is well-liked by those who know him (I don't personally)
6. Keith writes very well - his articles on float fishing on BFW are inspirational
7. Keith has caught a large barbel, on light tackle, in wintery conditions, on float tackle

Why would you possibly think that this feat would not be roundly acclaimed and celebrated on here?

R.

 

[Paul Boote]

Few better than Keith, as I observed pages ago. Shame about the desperate, sniping, "I've got a comp-u-ah and I'm gonna use it to take a pop at someone I feel intimidated and threatened by and so make my miserable existence seem like one worth living" who kick off here given the least chance.

So, a Happy New Year to the Anglers among us here, and extremely grim one to the burrowing Worms and Maggots reading this.

 

[Mark Walters]

I think that this adulation has gone on long enough. It's only a fish after all. It's not as though the Messiah has arrived or that Keith has given birth to it or some other such wonderfull feat. Time to pull the plug on this one.

Well atleast its fishing related aren't you the one who rattles on about Tortoises

 

[Neil Smart]

Jim,

I'm not sure which bit you're having trouble understanding:

1. This is a discussion forum dedicated to barbel fishing
2. Barbel are powerful fish, ie. strong tackle is often used
3. Barbel generally prefer warmer conditions
4. Barbel are most commonly caught using legering tactics
5. Keith is well-liked by those who know him (I don't personally)
6. Keith writes very well - his articles on float fishing on BFW are inspirational
7. Keith has caught a large barbel, on light tackle, in wintery conditions, on float tackle

Why would you possibly think that this feat would not be roundly acclaimed and celebrated on here?

R.

Lay off, no one I can see on here has nothing but respect and admiration for a fantastic angling feat. The line in the sand was crossed when it became Adoring as in Adulation...and therefore Embarrasing.
Witness the latest offering from PB which even for him trawls even deeper into the depths of the Abyss.
It is still only fishing so please can we have a sense of perspective, and stop this cowardly attack on a fellow member?

 

[Jim Foxall]

Jim,

I'm not sure which bit you're having trouble understanding:

1. This is a discussion forum dedicated to barbel fishing
2. Barbel are powerful fish, ie. strong tackle is often used
3. Barbel generally prefer warmer conditions
4. Barbel are most commonly caught using legering tactics
5. Keith is well-liked by those who know him (I don't personally)
6. Keith writes very well - his articles on float fishing on BFW are inspirational
7. Keith has caught a large barbel, on light tackle, in wintery conditions, on float tackle

Why would you possibly think that this feat would not be roundly acclaimed and celebrated on here?

R.

Robin, My response to your above points are, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.. I'm not, have not, and don't want to cast any aspersions on Keith, whom everybody says is a great bloke and a skilled angler. The point that I tried to make was that everyone acknowledges it's a great fish, but how many times do we have to repeat the message and I suspect that Keith would find some of the language used an embarrassment.