Why bother buying a EA rod licence?

[David Hall]

Craig...I think you may find that at least a third of the Hampshire Avon river water abstraction is 'not' used for the Hampshire/Dorset drinking water supply at all. It is sold on to a 'private' customer and turned into....Steam. It is worth approximately £6million a year to the supplier.
The EA issue the Abstraction licenses as well as the others mentioned!

just got this from the trust..

Editor's notes:

A recent Environment Agency assessment listed 26 per cent of rivers as ‘Good’ status. This means 74% of rivers are failing – including 117 rivers (2%) which are classified as ‘Bad’ making them among the worst in Europe. The EU Water Framework Directive requires the UK to bring all of its rivers up to ‘Good’ status or above by 2015. Current draft plans mean the UK will fail to reach this target.

 

[Colin Bridger]

Withdrawn

 

[Robin Bowes]

Why is a contemporary image of the source of the phrase David used in its original language more offensive than David's trite use of the phrase in English?

And what "nasty" thoughts are you suggesting Mr. Boote may be having that make him a disgrace?

Really, I'd like to know.

R.

PS. Are we getting close to the invocation of Godwin's law here?

 

[David Hall]

i did want to get back on topic, never mind.
i made my feelings known, trite or not.

 

[Paul Boote]

Why is a contemporary image of the source of the phrase David used in its original language more offensive than David's trite use of the phrase in English?

And what "nasty" thoughts are you suggesting Mr. Boote may be having that make him a disgrace?

Really, I'd like to know.

R.

PS. Are we getting close to the invocation of Godwin's law here?

Godwin's - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law - yes. Plus, of course, the immortal Corporal Jones's line: "They don't like it up 'em, Mr Mainwaring!".

 

[David Hall]

i suggest you read the rules, i've removed my post.

 

[Robin Bowes]

Godwin's - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law - yes. Plus, of course, the immortal Corporal Jones's line: "They don't like it up 'em, Mr Mainwaring!".

Plus of course the classic exchange:

PIKE: Whistle while you work, Hitler is a twirp, he's half barmy, so's his army, whistle while you work.
CAPTAIN: Your name vil also go on ze list. Vot is it?
MAINWARING: Don't tell him, Pike

I think we're even more decidedly OT now, though!

R.

 

[Alex Gowney]

First I've heard of Godwin's Law but I don't think David was trying to settle any debate with his remark and I'm not sure Paul meant to offend. Funny how easily internet warfare breaks out from virtually nothing..

 

[Craig Wood]

im sure no offence was meant by anyone..the elusive mr paul arthur boote has some strange views but to be honest hes one funny guy....anyway back to the original topic...why bother contributing to the EA?..are they really doing any good for the overall better of our rivers???..I think not..You could say the EA is abit like dads army..

 

[Chris Ponsford]

Speaking as an angler with a little experience in both camps,all I am seeing here is a load of whingeing and wining about an organisation,by a few who are probably too busy tapping into a keyboard to go fishing, and even more so picking up an implement to do manual labour.


I think the rather crptic,subtle ,funny Boote boy has it about right .

Hard work and apathy are regular bedfellows in our sport.

There are doer's,whingers,and sitters on the fence.

Where do you sit ?


As an aside ,this forum seems to be dominated by a few self obsessed keyboard junkies,who mostly would be better employed as the BBC voice on everything,just like the non entities who get wheeled out to spout off on whatever is the subject of the days news.

Cricket ,and betting anybody.

The artist previously known as Fat Boy Pons,now just plain old ,

Chris Ponsford

 

[Chris Turnbull]

I've had endless run ins with the EA and its predecessors over the years.... and eventually won most of them. As I said before if you want something from them you have to fight for it. As for an independent body to replace them, who's gonna fund it?

 

[Steve Williams]

As for an independent body to replace them, who's gonna fund it?

Simple Chris.... We are.

I'd happily pay £100+ for my rod licence.
It would still be a bargain.

Otherwise, scrap the rod licence and put a 'tax' on every single fishing related item.
That way, everyone who fishes will have to pay.

The 'body' would have to be run by anglers for anglers tho.......

Steve

 

[Paul Boote]

The 'body' would have to be run by anglers for anglers tho.......

Steve

My goodness, how the majority of anglers would have to scrutinize with an intense scrute the sharp-elbowed, axe-grinding, power-hungry and very likely not similarly minded politicos that would inevitably end up representing us.

Careful what you wish for. More important, think about what you will get.

 

[David Hall]

My goodness, how the majority of anglers would have to scrutinize with an intense scrute the sharp-elbowed, axe-grinding, power-hungry and very likely not similarly minded politicos that would inevitably end up representing us.

Careful what you wish for. More important, think about what you will get.

always check the milk before you put in the coffee,
yours must have gone sour.

 

[Paul Boote]

always check the milk before you put in the coffee,
yours must have gone sour.

Never sour. Having grown up with and been educated with people who expect to wield power as a right, I know just what such sorts are capable of. People without sweetness (except to those like themselves), and smarmily rancid and sour to all the rest.

 

[Chris Turnbull]

Simple Chris.... We are.

I'd happily pay £100+ for my rod licence.
It would still be a bargain.

Otherwise, scrap the rod licence and put a 'tax' on every single fishing related item.
That way, everyone who fishes will have to pay.

The 'body' would have to be run by anglers for anglers tho.......

Steve

Sorry Steve, but I'm not sure what kind of body you're thinking about here? The remit of the EA goes far beyond angling and rivers. It embraces waste disposal, flood defense, planning, ecology, recreation, etc, etc, etc. 99.9 of it is outside of their fisheries remit as directed by the water act. I imagine the body you envisage would exist to specifically deal with the protection and improvement of fisheries?

 

[Steve Williams]

Sorry Steve, but I'm not sure what kind of body you're thinking about here? The remit of the EA goes far beyond angling and rivers. It embraces waste disposal, flood defense, planning, ecology, recreation, etc, etc, etc. 99.9 of it is outside of their fisheries remit as directed by the water act. I imagine the body you envisage would exist to specifically deal with the protection and improvement of fisheries?

Chris,

my post was really a dig at those 'anglers' who complain about paying a measly £20 odd towards their/our hobby, to safeguard angling.
Until its made compulsory, either by some kind of angling tax (on bait/tackle etc), or we clamp down on those that dont bother with the current licence system, then it will never work.

I actually think the EA do a good job given the circumstances.
As I see it, the problem with the EA is that they are everything to all men.
You only have to look at the eel pass on the Avon and the fyke netting of eels above it.
Now the EA are saying that the netting is for 'research' purposes, but why dont they simply net the Eels below the pass and save the thousands of pounds.......
What about the excessive stocking of 'some' stillwaters?
At some point, someone is going to have to clamp down on this practice.
I'm not saying this because I'm anti- match/ Commercial fishing, I just feel its obscene for anglers to catch 4-5-600lb of fish each in a 5 hour match...



I feel we need to pay our way and fight our own causes.
I hoped the AT would emerge as this 'all singing all dancing' angling body, but from what I see, they are still very toothless........

When I say run by anglers for anglers, I dont mean the likes of me getting involved, but we have some fantastic 'experts' within angling, the likes of Les Webber, Bruno Broughton, Pete Reading etc.
I'm sure you could name a dozen people that have a passion and the expertise to direct angling.
I'm sure there are people from within NACA that are experts within their fields.....

These people should be involved at a professional level, taking angling forward.
If you want to get people into fishing, who better than someone like Les Webber to organise that......

Not only should the body deal with the protection and improvement of fisheries, it should be involved with all things 'angling'.

To be honest, I dont see anything changing in a hurry and I'll just simply go about my fishing in my own way...

Steve