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Roach

A decent sized peice of bread paste on a 14 or 12s hook should sort out the better stamp of fish ;)

I use a 50/50 mix of licky bread/brown crumb that has been mixed very damp (keep them separate until you are ready to ball them in) if it is deep water add some PV1 binder. What you are looking for is for the groundbait to hit the deck before breaking up. The last thing you want to do is loose feed particles of any kind, unless you want to be driven to distraction by the small fish.
 
Hi Terry.
The commercial fisheries I fish don't allow bread in case it sours the water. Boilies also banned.

Bread just about the best river bait for them though but not so selective on commercials imo.

Particles certainly will bring loads of fish in the swim and whilst the smaller fish pick them up the larger ones go for the mouthful. Averaging about 70 roach a session and the prawn giving me a dozen over the pound to Just under 2 and larger rudd and bream/roach hybrids.
Graham
 
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Hi Graham

Sorry, but my response was meant for Mark (maybe I should of been clearer) :eek:

Interesting about the roach on your water having a taste for prawns !

Most of my stillwater roaching takes place on natural lakes but on occasion a commercial. Where the bread method is still quite selective and successfull. Suppose every water is differnt though ?

There's no doubting it as a class bait on the rivers, I wouldn't be without it ;)

I've just upgraded to a 12ft Team Normark Microlite, which I promised myself I won't use till the new season. It's going to be a long seven weeks ! :D
 
On my two outings on small lakes since the close season, I have float fished prawn sections over hemp and shrimp/prawn bits, and have been surprised by the range of fish caught and the quality of the roach. My last outing resulted in roach, perch, rudd, bream and carp- all on prawn. Never fished with it before- what a bait!
 
Sainsbury's Basics Prawns. As it says on the packet, you don't need to shell out. A killer bait, biggest problem is the carp get there first too often.
 
I like putting a bit of prawn and the tail of a lobworm on the hook to produce a prawn cocktail you would never have seen at a 70s wedding reception. The carp love it.

Steve
 
Graham Elliott said:
Hi Terry.
The commercial fisheries I fish don't allow bread in case it sours the water. Boilies also banned.

Bread just about the best river bait for them though but not so selective on commercials imo.

Particles certainly will bring loads of fish in the swim and whilst the smaller fish pick them up the larger ones go for the mouthful. Averaging about 70 roach a session and the prawn giving me a dozen over the pound to Just under 2 and larger rudd and bream/roach hybrids.
Graham
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don't allow bread in case it sours the water



Well, now i have heard it all.:eek:
 
Tried prawns as suggested,made mistake of freezing them,however caught handful of roach and rudd netters,two tench and near 10lb common on my poor little ol shimano quivertip.
No real quality roach or perch yet but still very enjoyable, condition of tench and carp was immaculate from this commercial lake.
Real good fun once it got going.
 
Very pleased to at last get a 2lb roach, this 2.02 beauty turned up on the float during a tench session today!



Also had tench of 6.05 and 5.12 so a great day.
 
Had a bash on stick float in a new small river which to my surprise turned out to be 11ft+ deep.
Caught 9 Species , all smallish but good fun !
Roach,Rudd,Chub,Dace,Bleak,Bream,perch,Gudgeon and a jack pike that pestered me all afternoon as I reeled fish in.
Last cast saw me with Roach on the rod in one hand and the pesky pike in the net with other !!
Happy days .
 
Have over the last few visits to the Lea encountered a problem, new to me, and would really appreciate some advice.
I've been trying for roach, trotting. To avoid the Perch I've not been using maggots. Feeding hemp, for hookbaits, corn, pellets, hemp, real and artificial and in desperation I tried tares for the first time yesterday.
The problem has been that very quickly the roach are coming up and taking the hemp within a few inches of the surface then diving back down. Bites when they come are lightning fast and very hard to hit. Seeing a shoal of Roach charging around the hookbait taking the hemp and not getting bites is very frustrating.
Best results so far have been by fishing corn and not feeding hemp but judging by the amount of roach in the swims it's not that effective.
Any advice re methods that might work?
Cheers
Paul
 
Many years ago I fished the Lea for roach along with my brother.
We used a size 18 hook ,gently squeeze hemp so the split opened up and put hook in and release thus "clamping" hook.
Or guess you could try artificial hemp ?
 
Managed to have another go at the elusive Roach last week. Feeding hemp, tares, maggots, 4mm and 6mm pellets all produced the same boiling reaction, corn not so much.
I found that I caught on all of the above baits when I switched to feeding them, but 2 fish landed or pricked and they'd still take the freebies but ignore the hookbait until the changes were rung again, so a little bit of progress.
They're a bit too far out to use a baitdropper so I'm thinking a stiff bread based groundbait to get them on the deck and possibly bread on the hook, the swim's about 3' deep, gravel bottom. Will need something that breaks down after a while on the bottom and definitely not on impact.
Any suggestions chaps?
 
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