Geoff Sykes
Member
Haven't tried it John but not convinced it would make much difference. Seems that fluorocarbon is not a good friend of the knotless knot that really suits my set up for this kind of fishing.
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Barbel and flurocarbons?
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Jon Frisby
Senior Member & Supporter
Use a chod hook instead.
David Maddison
Senior Member & Supporter
Thats exactly what i use-Korda choddy hooks that have an outturned eye! I find the hair does kink sometimes with fluorocarbon though so i have other rigs tyed with a separate braid hair and a straight/inturned eye:
http://www.englandangling.co.uk/displayProduct.asp?prodCode=SM1
Then use a palomar to attach the hook and a figure of eight at the other end which attaches onto a quick release swivel.(I have found this rig is much stronger)
Or alternatively use a combi rig.
Dave
Gene Brownless
Member
Hi Guys,
Im a big fan of IQ2, never had any problems with it at all.
A bit on the chunky side at 0.35 for 12lb but to be honest ive caught more barbel on it than the braid i use, however most of my fishing is into dusk, tho i have caught during the day on it. My mate who is obsessed with hooklink diameters hasnt caught as many, we do use different baits tho, so maybe thats more important.
however im no professional and got onto this IQ2 off a pal, but since using it i see no reason to change as ive not seen me catching less barbel infact im getting more now than i ever had, maybe a lucky season i guess
Im a big fan of IQ2, never had any problems with it at all.
A bit on the chunky side at 0.35 for 12lb but to be honest ive caught more barbel on it than the braid i use, however most of my fishing is into dusk, tho i have caught during the day on it. My mate who is obsessed with hooklink diameters hasnt caught as many, we do use different baits tho, so maybe thats more important.
however im no professional and got onto this IQ2 off a pal, but since using it i see no reason to change as ive not seen me catching less barbel infact im getting more now than i ever had, maybe a lucky season i guess
Mike Hodgkiss
Senior Member
It's stiff , it's supple . It breaks without warning , never had a problem with breakages . It's virtually invisible under water , the invisibility is a myth . It spooks fish , it doesn't spook fish . Difficult to knot , never had a problem with knots . Lots of contradictory statements , Im confused and not enthused . Think I will stick to good old mono , a sharp hook and a grinner knot . Interesting thread though . Which mono though ......
Chris Thomson
Senior Member
Amnesia, used it for years in 15 and 20lbs never a problem, caught me plenty, tend to fish short bolt rig type set ups use a braid hair drennan continental hook alleviates hook eye stress on the mono, job done
Jon Frisby
Senior Member & Supporter
Its Sunline FC sniper. I have used kryston and it snapped a few times. Got this off a US bass sight 6 year ago and not used anything else or thought about anything else since.
David Maddison
Senior Member & Supporter
It would be interesting to see more underwater footage of barbel and chub around some of these rigs we use just to see whether any of this reallly matters!
Or makes a significant difference! (I think sharp hooks and strong knots are a must though!!!)
Dave
Geoff Sykes
Member
Have to say that since changing from flours hook links to mono there has been no discernible difference in the number of takes and my fishing has predominantly been in low clear water.
Neil Blood
Senior Member
The Korda Choddy hook is excellent when using fluro; however even the size 12 is massive (more like a size 8 in other patterns). For a lot of this season, I've been going down to a Drennan SS Barbel hook in size 14, when the going gets tough and its a real shame that you cant get a strong choddy pattern in this physical size.
David Maddison
Senior Member & Supporter
Would it be possible to bend the eye of a hook from straight to out-turned without weakening the hook significantly?
Dave
Chris Thomson
Senior Member
Yes ive done it on gardners wide gape talon tip hooks and you lose the odd one where the eye snaps but take it easy with two pair of pliers and its ok
Stephen Whyte
Senior Member
If you really have to try this perhaps heating the hook would help, but its something that i personally have never tried
Stephen
David Maddison
Senior Member & Supporter
If you really have to try this perhaps heating the hook would help, but its something that i personally have never tried
Stephen
I don't think i could be bothered going to all that trouble, as i know my other rigs are strong enough if i tie good knots
Dave
Neil Smart
Senior Member
At last....I agree I think there is no difference at all, but if it gives an angler confidence that fair enough. Combi rigs? Do me a favour, keep it simple and good watercraft as all you need.
Joe Winstanley
Senior Member & Supporter
Length of mono + swivel + very short length of braid.
Hardy complicated now is it Neil? The mono provides good abrasion resistance and the braid a degree suppleness where it's required. It ain't rocket science, just a simple rig that a trained monkey could tie.
Your right about the importance of good watercraft, but that only accounts for three of the five golden rules as set down by the great Dick Walker:
1) First find your fish.
2) Having found them, don't scare them.
3) Fish for them at the right time
4) Fish for them in the right way
5) Choose the right bait.