What youngs pin ?

[Huanzhou Zhu]

I always thought it depended on reel orientation if talking two identical reels with the bearing or lack of being the only difference.

Bearing reels spin longer vertically and true pins spin longer laying flat (assuming it’s the same reel design every where else)

Assuming that’s correct and logically it makes sense to me, an atom should out spin a bob J laying on its back and a bob j should out spin an atom hanging vertically off a rod.

Yes, bearing spins better in vertical and true pin spins better when laying flat, but that is when comparing the same type of pin.

It doesn’t mean a true pin will out spin a flat bearing pin, none of my true pin can out spin my bearings pin even when it is laying flat.

 

[Richard Isaacs]

Yes, bearing spins better in vertical and true pin spins better when laying flat, but that is when comparing the same type of pin.

It doesn’t mean a true pin will out spin a flat bearing pin, none of my true pin can out spin my bearings pin even when it is laying flat.

Yeah I made that point above
I said two identical pins

 

[Ian Woods]

I had a Greys Berwick which didn't spin much beyond 40 seconds, but being so light and a true pin, even the lightest of breath could set it spinning. All down to low inertia. I regret selling it tbh.

I still have one, and they are ok. The plus points of the bewick (for me) are their weight and the ratchet button type and placement. Pity they weren't made 4 1/2inch rather than 4inch.

 

[Joe Winstanley]

I still have one, and they are ok. The plus points of the bewick (for me) are their weight and the ratchet button type and placement. Pity they weren't made 4 1/2inch rather than 4inch.

Yes a 4.5" would be even better. Great trotting reel I found.

 

[Daniel Earl]

First carp on the pin ideal for lakes getting accustom really quick so mega pleased and was great fun to fish with.

 

[Alan Palmer]

First carp on the pin ideal for lakes getting accustom really quick so mega pleased and was great fun to fish with.

Lovely …maybe just me but I love Matt shots, just seems to capture the magic of fishing nicely

 

[Dave Bartell]

First carp on the pin ideal for lakes getting accustom really quick so mega pleased and was great fun to fish with.

A very nice christening Dan

 

[Alan Rose]

I believe the Trudex 3 is 4.5" whilst the 2 is 4"
The lineguard arrangement looks different too

The Trudex and Rapidex Mk II’s came in a 4” or 4.5” models (2500 and 2550 for the Trudex. I have the latter). The main difference between the Mk II and Mk III Trudex is the absence of any tensioner/drag system on the Mk III. Both the Trudex and Rapidex Mk II’s have the patented Young’s “wheel in the hole” tensioner on the face of the reel. Other than that, the differences are largely cosmetic

 

[Alan Rose]

Just out of interest, how long should a brand new pin spin for ? I bought a pin from Garry Mills which only spins for 7 seconds which given how I retrieve, makes it a pain to use. I had to wait 2 years for it as well.

Hi Nick, there are a number of variables there really. A brand new true pin is highly unlikely to spin as long as a brand new ball race reel, and might never spin as long. A true pin gradually “runs in” (for want of a better term) and depending on spool weight and grub screw set-up might spin for upward of ninety seconds. My Young’s Triton True Pin didn’t spin for long fresh out of the box, but now it will spin for seventy-five seconds or so.

Nevertheless… none of the above is important for a centrepin, as much as it is fun to treat them like giant fidget spinners and time how long they go for! The best test to a centrepin’s usefulness is to put line on it, stick it on a rod, thread it up and then lie it flat on a table or something. Then see how many shot it takes to get the spool to turn. My best reels will spin with one single BB or less. Then again, if you’re only using it for legering then all that is immaterial anyway!

Al

Edit: the spool should be face up on a true pin when you do the “shot” test mentioned above

 

[Richard Isaacs]

Hi Nick, there are a number of variables there really. A brand new true pin is highly unlikely to spin as long as a brand new ball race reel, and might never spin as long. A true pin gradually “runs in” (for want of a better term) and depending on spool weight and grub screw set-up might spin for upward of ninety seconds. My Young’s Triton True Pin didn’t spin for long fresh out of the box, but now it will spin for seventy-five seconds or so.

Nevertheless… none of the above is important for a centrepin, as much as it is fun to treat them like giant fidget spinners and time how long they go for! The best test to a centrepin’s usefulness is to put line on it, stick it on a rod, thread it up and then lie it flat on a table or something. Then see how many shot it takes to get the spool to turn. My best reels will spin with one single BB or less. Then again, if you’re only using it for legering then all that is immaterial anyway!

Al

Edit: the spool should be face up on a true pin when you do the “shot” test mentioned above

Well said.
A very much quicker but less measurable test of spindle freedom is just to blow on one of the handles.

A nice free drum shouldn’t take much of a puff to get going