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I would find it hard to believe Steve. I can understand where your thoughts come from. I do believe as you, although perhaps only when talking about baits of inferior quality, that what fish come to assume as safe to eat on the grounds they've not been caught on it that much, will catch them. There are baits however that properly applied will consistently out-fish others, just because of what they contain.
There's no doubt it was different, in fact a real crossover bait. It was such though that I could quite honestly set my watch for a bite, and that once moving they'd track it down. I think I'd struggle to say that with a bait just that bit different.
I will say however that I did have a poor end of season on it, but I was on one of those waters which there is knowledge of large fish and because of that sees more bait during that time.

Regards

Damian
 
Used them many times in the past, and will certainly be using them at some stage in the future, not sure they are over priced , as if you are using decent ingredients , which JB obviously is, then these come at a price. I'm currently using a bait that works out somewhere in the region of £12-13 / kg just for the ingredients. Just a personal thing ,but good bait does make a big difference imo.

Oh... and nice job on the site Andy
 
Damien,

Has it crossed your mind that the other people fishing your stretch may have been covering their results?

The Adams Mill story is true for the early days but I have spoken to many of the syndicate members at Barbel Specialist meetings and virtually to a man they will tell you that when it was at it's peak most of the big fish were coming out to tiny pellets fished on long hairs and small hooks with walnut size bags of pellet as feed.

Having said that I must admit that I tend to use different baits for different rivers. When I'm on my 'easy' bit of the Trent I am confident with any old thing on the hook and will take all the left over stuff from the freezer which may previously have been out on a couple of trips to shove through the feeder.

On the middle Severn I'm a bit more fussy these days and like fresh on the hook but am still happy to use leftovers in the feeder.

On the Dove however everything has to be fresh, I even go as far as using duck eggs, (yolks only), for my paste and I buy them fresh on the day I make the paste, my feed bait is complementary and is made on the bank in small 'session' batches.

As Steve said confidence is the key.
 
Given that the largest barbel are female, how on earth did I pull my missus with Sainsburys Cava at £4.25 when it is obvious that £150 Cristal was needed....................

Added - Dave, yes.:D


Graham
 
She was a 'mug' Graham?:)

I did consider that Adrian, but to be honest, during the summer when I was doing ok I very rarely saw the same person twice
 
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It might seem a bit excessive at first reading but I get my free range duck eggs off the market and don't have to pay a silly price for them.
The reason I prefer them is they are quite a bit richer than chicken eggs and the ratio of yolk to albumen is higher. I only use the yolks therefore I throw less away.
The reason I only use the yolks is so that if I do decide to hand roll a few boilies from my paste and boil them on the bank they stay softer with a more open texture to the skin than they do if the albumen is left in the mix, this of course allows more leak off of flavour.
 
i use extra albumen when i make some, i get a nice hard skin and a soft centre, i fish mine broken so don't need to worry about leakage or them falling off.
 
I suppose we will never know whether it was the bait that made the difference for a particular fish or whether we would have caught it on any good bait presented in the right way. Confidence is important and if we believe in a bait we are half way there. Making your own bait is the only way of making sure that you are offering the fish something that nobody else is using and when success comes your confidence rockets. I made the decision a couple of seasons ago to shift to John Baker baits for a lot of my barbel fishing and I have no regrets. John's advice that it is a good fresh bait + correct application that brings success is spot on. I have yet to tire of mixing up fresh bait although the smells emanating from the bait shed are less popular with other members of the family!

Steve
 
Hi men

Ade , as you know we have Ducks and chickens , and the Duck eggs are far superior in all ways , im with you mate .

Hatter
 
A tough one !
I've used 'quality/expensive' baits with some 1/2 decent results, but I do believe that most are over-priced !
My best results have come on simple 'Donkey Choker' pellets !
As has been said, 'It's all down to confidence'................

The above said, the 2 baits I would go to in a 'crisis' are Source Boiles and Salips Pellets...............(yes, I have an extensive supply !).
Wakas ? Still have some and yes they still catch............

Regards Paul M.
 
there are some fantastic base mixes around, so, so many, you can also put your own together.
the two i trust are from mainline and nutrabaits.
 
Julian Griffiths said:
How come your not going to be usingTeme-Severn next season Julian?
Surly if there baits are as good as everyone keeps saying, you'd continue to use them..............
Just curious;).

Steve

Steve.

There is absolutely no probs with their products at all, in my opinion their pellets are 1st class, I believe Dave Mason and all wanted to streamline the bait team numbers, and suddenly found that they were suddenly overwhelmed with team numbers and I think they were having problems keeping track of who had what products, and the old adage 'last one in 1st one out' occurred, anyway I would still urge people to try their stuff, I will be because I still have a tremendous amount of pellets left that I was given!

But the new/revamped J.B stuff will be only part of my approach, for the coming season.


For all you bait makers out there, I do remember Glynn saying that he felt the single most important factor in bait making is to use good quality eggs, he use to hammer that quote to me all the time when I saw him!
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Shame that Julian.

There is a guy I know on 'another' Yuku Barbel (loosely:rolleyes:) web site that is looking for field testers to test a new 'small river' bait.
He's specifically asking for anglers that target Barbel in the smaller streams and rivers.

If anyone is interested, they need to pop over and look for the 'unforgiven' one.........

Steve
 
I have been on the teme Severn site this morning and it stated they were closing
The operation down and telling us that they had some items left still for sale
Albert
 
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