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New Barbel society video

Hare? Deer? Muntjack? Head facing upstream?
I don't know about all that, but I do know I have never seen a baited hook or dropper cast using a centrepin like that! What on earth was that called?

Damian
 
I'm not sure if you're serious Damian, but casting a 'pin directly off the drum is a highly effective method with weights of 2oz plus. The finest exponent I've seen to date was a certain Mr. Hooper...

Re the video:
"The Hampshire Avon holds healthy stocks of barbel"...don't think so!
and that swim is perilously close to the scene of the Ibsley chainsaw massacre, so the holding feature on the far bank may not be there for too much longer.
 
Damian Kimmins said:
Hare? Deer? Muntjack? Head facing upstream?
I don't know about all that, but I do know I have never seen a baited hook or dropper cast using a centrepin like that! What on earth was that called?

Damian
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It's a pukka cast. Quite hard to do. In the good old days, this method was often used to cast out when float fishing. The bend of the hook was held in the tips of the thumb and forefinger of the left hand and some tension put in the rod. As the hook was released, the drum of the reel was flicked by the little finger of the right hand to release line. Pretty hard to coordinate the whole thing. The brand name of one of the centre pins was called the Flick'em, derived from this very technique.
 
It is easy enough to do if the weight is enough.................... is the only cast i can do with a pin LOL
 
Agree with Tim. Seen MH cast a few times as he is resident on the Kennet last few seasons. Makes it look easy.


Graham
 
I'm not sure if you're serious Damian, but casting a 'pin directly off the drum is a highly effective method with weights of 2oz plus. The finest exponent I've seen to date was a certain Mr. Hooper...
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I'll vouch for that, Martin casts 30 yards plus and drops it as light as a feather!
 
No. And Mr Hooper taught me to do it very handy.
 
I think it's a variation of the Wallis cast. The Wally's cast perhaps?
 
Robert Beal said:
Might be wrong but aint it called a wallace cast ?
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Not a Wallis cast.

The three "main" casts - the "Nottingham" which involves pulling loops of line, the "off the side" which involves allowing the line to spill off the side of the drum, and the "wallis" which involves spinning the drum by pulling the line sharply - all require use of the left hand (assuming rod held with right hand).

Pete is shown using only his right hand (holding the rod) and is using the weight and impetus (or is it momentum?) of the dropper to pull lline off the now spinning reel.

When I was demonstrating casting it was not one that I used, mentioned yes, but not used. You should have been concentrating Damian :), or didn't you ever wander over? :D

paul4
 
Your demonstration was always on the Sunday, Paul - I might have fell over!:eek:
 
Stu Morgan and myself planned to make a barbel handling video a couple of years ago, just as the barbel population on the Bristol Avon went through the floor, making the prospect of catching for the camera a more challenging prospect!

I have to say that I think the BS have done a fab job with this, it's better than the one I'd envisaged doing by miles. Getting Hugh Miles involved and the narrator from Passion for Angling (for the first the first bit) is genius.

Well done Barbel Society :)

Andy F
 
Jim Foxall said:
We can never get any agreement on this site. The Hare couldn't possibly be a deer as it had no antlers and munjack are natives of China. There can be no doubt that it was a fine large hare shown in the video.
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From our every helpful wiki-ting:
Reeves's Muntjac has been introduced to England, with wild deer descended from escapees from Woburn Safari Park around 1925. Muntjac have expanded very rapidly, and are now present in most English counties south of the M62 motorway and have also expanded their range into Wales. The British Deer Society coordinated a survey of wild deer in the UK between 2005 and 2007, and they reported that Muntjac deer had noticeably expanded their range since the previous census in 2000. It is anticipated that Muntjac may soon become the most numerous species of deer in England and may have also crossed the border into Scotland with a couple of specimens appearing in Northern Ireland in 2009; they have been spotted in the republic of Ireland in 2010, almost certainly having reached there with some human assistance
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And I have seen them in Yorkshire too..
 
Muntjac deer are present in great numbers in our area, often seen feeding in peoples gardens and on grass verges at the side of the road. Unfortunately, because they are still not 'streetwise, they frequently die on the roads too.

On more than one occasion while travelling home in the early hours, my wife and I have had to stop and wait while a family of four cross the road...they don't seem afraid of cars and slowly and sedately make their way over while we wait. Very touching, but that is obviously why they become statistics fairly regularly.

Cheers, Dave.
 
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I bet you wouldn't have stopped to let them cross if these foreign invaders were fish eating apex predators!:D
 
Have I got the wrong end of the stick or did somebody actually think the Deer was a Hare? Oh deery me...

On a lighter note, brilliant little vid. All this moaning about taking barbel out of the water being a terrible thing, if you'd do it to a fish you thought might be a double then why not do it to a smaller fish? As long as the fish is rested and looked after properly then I can't see a problem, if you care about the fish that much and thought they were that precious then don't stick lumps of metal in their mouths in the first place....

This post is in no way aimed at anyone in particular by the way, but it seems to me that lots of Barbel anglers these days take it all a bit too seriously and enjoy taking a 'holier than thou' attitude, which is partly why I don't really bother with this forum any more, which is a shame. Remember people, it's just a fish.
 
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