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Low stretch mono

True story. I used Berkeley Big game for years, never let me down. I was fishing on the Wye for the second time and struggling. A certain Mr Trefor West came to talk to me and started to take the pee out of me( as he does) , but must have felt pity on the Northern numpty and told me exactly where I needed to cast to but I just couldn't hit the reflection on the river on the cast no matter how hard I tried.I was going to switch to a straight lead but TW wasn't having it. I had to get bait in.
I had a spare spool loaded with the Mimicry which I'd actually inherited when I bought a job lot of gear and never used ,so it was a gamble but needs must. Switched over from 15lb big game to 18lb low stretch mimicry and first cast, identical rod & reel set-up - I was on the money.
The difference in casting between the two lines was a good 25+ yards which was amazing really, but on that day was critical.
Found the pod and had some great sport. There was a lot of abuse on the line hauling good fish upstream through streamer reed ( when the Wye had weed!) at range. Plus regularly throwing 3-4oz loaded feeders on a pacy Wye which emptied them PDQ, also would take it's toll. Regularly checked the business end of the line , never had to cut it back all week, no malfunctions, worked brilliantly with a C3 . Have never looked back. It's all about confidence but sometimes a change can be necessary IMHO.
And who'd argue with Trefor?? ;)
I'm surprised he didn't try to sell you a spool of Bass Pro Excel line whilst he was talking to you😃
 
What do people use for 6lb and 8lb my normal Daiwa is out of stock most places and it is over inflated prices.
 
What do people use for 6lb and 8lb my normal Daiwa is out of stock most places and it is over inflated prices.
Since the demise of gold label pro gold I’ve found it really hard to find a decent 6-8lb line.

Recently Ive tried Daiwa sensor (cheap and allegedly reliable) and guru pulse pro (matchman recommended) and thought both were pretty awful.

My next experiment will be with Edge tackle (an offshoot of Cadence) line - they have just launched a sinking mono and a specimen line. I’ve bought some of the 8lb specimen line and it looks/feels okay but I probably won’t try it for months. You can buy 300m spools - so if it’s not great at least I won’t have 700m to dispose of ! Their ‘float’ line is good if that is anything to go by….

I wish Gardner would make their lines in lower breaking strains. From 10lb and up I use their lines and they are fine.

As a last resort, Guru drag line in 8lb is okay.
 
Since the demise of gold label pro gold I’ve found it really hard to find a decent 6-8lb line.































Recently Ive tried Daiwa sensor (cheap and allegedly reliable) and guru pulse pro (matchman recommended) and thought both were pretty awful.































My next experiment will be with Edge tackle (an offshoot of Cadence) line - they have just launched a sinking mono and a specimen line. I’ve bought some of the 8lb specimen line and it looks/feels okay but I probably won’t try it for months. You can buy 300m spools - so if it’s not great at least I won’t have 700m to dispose of ! Their ‘float’ line is good if that is anything to go by….































I wish Gardner would make their lines in lower breakingGardner do hydro flo in lower breaking strains strains. From 10lb and up I use













As a last resort, Guru drag line in 8lb is okay.
 
Since the demise of gold label pro gold I’ve found it really hard to find a decent 6-8lb line.

Recently Ive tried Daiwa sensor (cheap and allegedly reliable) and guru pulse pro (matchman recommended) and thought both were pretty awful.

My next experiment will be with Edge tackle (an offshoot of Cadence) line - they have just launched a sinking mono and a specimen line. I’ve bought some of the 8lb specimen line and it looks/feels okay but I probably won’t try it for months. You can buy 300m spools - so if it’s not great at least I won’t have 700m to dispose of ! Their ‘float’ line is good if that is anything to go by….

I wish Gardner would make their lines in lower breaking strains. From 10lb and up I use their lines and they are fine.

As a last resort, Guru drag line in 8lb is okay.
I know what you mean about Pro-Gold. The best line I've ever found for tench fishing in 8-10lb strengths. Have a look at Korda carp line in 8lb, it's pretty decent.
 
For barbel I simply don’t bother with breaking strains anymore. It’s about as useful as test curves and chocolate fireguards to start picking lines based on their stated breaking strain.
For me it’s 0.35 mono……..no ifs, no buts, they don’t give a monkeys if it’s pinned down behind your lead. Fish strong, give em hell, watch em bolt off on release.
 
For barbel I simply don’t bother with breaking strains anymore. It’s about as useful as test curves and chocolate fireguards to start picking lines based on their stated breaking strain.
For me it’s 0.35 mono……..no ifs, no buts, they don’t give a monkeys if it’s pinned down behind your lead. Fish strong, give em hell, watch em bolt off on release.
Agree re diameters. Except its 0.34 Pro Clear for me, which is marketed as 16lb, but breaks at nearly 20lb. And has good abrasion resistance properties.

And 0.32 Pro Clear in summer conditions on smaller rivers with low flows. Although its marketed as 14lb, it breaks at well over 16lb.
 
Shimano Tech Black (the original) was the best low stretch - ESP Synchro XT is has def got stretch in it however its an excellent product - Gardner HD is low(er) stretch and something to consider . . .wouldn't go anywhere near Drennan Double Strength - impossible to knot / snaps with the mildest of abrasion!
 
For barbel I simply don’t bother with breaking strains anymore. It’s about as useful as test curves and chocolate fireguards to start picking lines based on their stated breaking strain.
For me it’s 0.35 mono……..no ifs, no buts, they don’t give a monkeys if it’s pinned down behind your lead. Fish strong, give em hell, watch em bolt off on release.
I challenge you to spool up with Pallatrax Gamma 0.28, snag it and break it but you have to bend the rod, you can't turn the drag off and walk backwards. Even down to Gamma 0.25 you probably will have to cut the line.

It will facilitate strongest pallomar knot known to man. 🤣
 
I challenge you to spool up with Pallatrax Gamma 0.28, snag it and break it but you have to bend the rod, you can't turn the drag off and walk backwards. Even down to Gamma 0.25 you probably will have to cut the line.

It will facilitate strongest pallomar knot known to man. 🤣
What’s it like when you rub it across a brick?
I don’t just choose a big diameter because I want sheer pulling force strength
I do it because there’s more meat on the bone to withstand getting pulled through the snags they so commonly dart for.
 
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