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looking at getting 2 new 12ft rods 2.25tc???

Wayne Glossop said:
Chris you are correct its a right weight lol
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Glad to see you are smiling again Wayne...after you wrist smacking post, I thought you were having a bad day :D

Two questions though...are those 13' Fox rods not doing the business any more?

Secondly, because I can't help being me....does your good lady not get fed up with carrying that lot :D:D

Cheers, Dave.
 
how about this wayne, i know where i can get one for you.

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Blimey!
Doesn't seem too long ago that 1 and a quarter was the tool of choice for 99% of barbel anglers. My first carp rods were only 1 and a halfs!!
How times change....
 
A 12 foot fox fx 2.75 or maximiser 2.5, Good all round TT rods.
 
Steve Sorrell said:
Blimey!
Doesn't seem too long ago that 1 and a quarter was the tool of choice for 99% of barbel anglers. My first carp rods were only 1 and a halfs!!
How times change....
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Never fished the Trent however if you are talking wanting out 8oz of lead you got to be looking at carp rods. Now a long time ago when I was a puddle pig chaser I used century ng's & used to launch a pva bag when with lead weighed 4 oz. I would never dream of loading them with 8oz.
Plus please someone correct me here BUT if you are stepping up to big powerful rods that are mainly going to be landing say 7-9lb barbel just a average then it takes the fun and challenge out of playing a fish because end of the day you can just winch them in just a thought Wayne not having a dig mate

Mark
 
Wayne are all the Barbel in the middle of a raging Trent mate? Really at a loss as to how chucking half a bound of lead can be considered anything other than 'catching'. :)
Jeez I know I am the other end of the spectrum in fishing a bit too light for my own good at times, but it does seem to be a lot more enjoyable.

Have you asked Graham about up streaming? He could do it with a single AAA lightly pinched 1 foot from the hook :p
 
Trent barbel especially on the tidal tend to be in the boat channel and unless you can get on that side of the river and drop rig in 3 rod lengths out then you could be casting anything between 40 yrds and 65 yrds , obviously when its flood they will come closer but then you may still need 6-8oz to hold , I know where Wayne fishes and thats the situation there , I saw someone post on either here or another barbel site that he could hold anywhere on the Trent with a maximum of 2.5oz , now I know places where that is possible but it means casting up stream and putting a huge bow in the line and I mean to the point where the bow could stretch down the next swim
 
Jon Frisby said:
A 12 foot fox fx 2.75 or maximiser 2.5, Good all round TT rods.
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Either of those would do the job - not fished with the fox but had a play in Carters - was tempted. The Maximiser will cast 8oz - but it is 13' not 12' - had one for Ribble flood work and it was superb. Used to fish the Trent a lot and on a lot of the stretches the channel flips from one side to the other so like the lads have said, if your on the wrong side you'll need to give it a good chuck. If money's no object then a Harrison - can't decide between the Chimera Ultra Flood and the Torrix 2.5 - popped the question on here a while back and still not made my mind up yet! :rolleyes:
 
When I'm on the Tidal Trent, I tend to put my 1 and 3/8 TC Hexagraph away and use my Free Spirit 12' 2.25 TC. And if necessary I can put the 8oz lead out with them, although I prefer to keep it 6oz or less. I have played around with countless big river Barbel rods and the only thing that can beat them for the Tidal (apart from a more expensive Free Spirit) is the original Peregrine Flood rod. That said there is the 13' Bruce Ashby flood water special which I have not played with, but as it based on a Harrison blank, I've got a good idea of what its like.
 
Probably wrong but isn't the Peregrine Flood rod built on a chimera ultra flood blank?

(edit) wrong! thought it be the snag n flood being 11' 9" but doesn't have the chimera weave!
 
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Robert Beal said:
Trent barbel especially on the tidal tend to be in the boat channel and unless you can get on that side of the river and drop rig in 3 rod lengths out then you could be casting anything between 40 yrds and 65 yrds , obviously when its flood they will come closer but then you may still need 6-8oz to hold , I know where Wayne fishes and thats the situation there , I saw someone post on either here or another barbel site that he could hold anywhere on the Trent with a maximum of 2.5oz , now I know places where that is possible but it means casting up stream and putting a huge bow in the line and I mean to the point where the bow could stretch down the next swim
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Crikey Rob that is some scenario, mind you the Lower Severn when she's up and running is some mean beast too, and rarely if ever do I see anyone using such heavy gear trying to combat the flow. Anglers have told me using 6oz leads and possibly more won't cut it and simply finds it's own line to settle, which is about 4/5 rod lengths out, which seemingly is where the Barbel prefer to be in such conditions or in my case still further in.

The Lower Severn has fished well this season with all this extra water and all my fish have been caught close in, as with my son too and seemingly everyone else too, anyway as I have indicated to hold midstream would be I think impossible with any coarse gear.

However if anyone does manage to hold in midstream I would be delighted to know how!! Then there is the debris issue, whole trees , sheds, sheep, cows the lot to contend with:eek:

So I reckon the Severn is the 'hardest' River of all!!

But there's only one way to find out :)
 
I'm lucky or picked the right tickets as all but 2 of my stretches on the trent have the boat channel close in , when its been in flood ( not including this time as couldnt get near it ) have caught dropping just beyond where the rocks are , its the stretch Wayne fishes has a few problems of its own that warrant the extra weight
 
Wayne Glossop said:
look lads not been funny but if you havnt fished the tidal trent correctly please dont comment, im not a stupid angler and know what i need but would like to see what people recommend.

Last year i bought 2 15ft fox xtreme 2.75 tc which i can clear the trent with a 6oz feeder at 70mm long crammed with bait, so please dont tell me theres nothing out there that will do the job i want!!!!!!!!!!
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Fantastic.......Join date june 2011....first post states this is your first season fishing for barbel.
650 posts later you are suggesting you are the only one who knows how to fish the Trent properly. That's some learning curve mate, zero to hero in 18 months........Or are you having some sort of a laugh?

And fyi the fox extreme 15' 2.75 is the worst piece of c... arbon to ever have a set of rings strapped to it...........The handle is too short, the whole thing is tip heavy, even with an 8000 bait-runner strapped to it, and the middle five feet is a broom handle........I sold mine by advertising it as 'Not for wimps' to appeal to the brainless muscle bound morons, the bloke who bought it was from Donny and paid me twice what I paid for it...........Say no more.:D
 
Robert Beal said:
I'm lucky or picked the right tickets as all but 2 of my stretches on the trent have the boat channel close in , when its been in flood ( not including this time as couldnt get near it ) have caught dropping just beyond where the rocks are , its the stretch Wayne fishes has a few problems of its own that warrant the extra weight
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I Know you understand Bob :) but wonder how many people have actually been north of Watford :D
 
Fished the Trent for 7 seasons mate, 2 on the tidal and 5 on the middle, the tidal is nowhere near as difficult as most would have you believe, and the middle is a pussycat I still have the occasional trip up there but it's usually for a social, the next time I go I'm only taking a telescopic beachcaster and a cheap old no name reel as that is all that is required.
The middle Severn is a much more demanding river on knowledge needed to succeed and understand the variety of swims, and that's not even accounting for the river conditions, I've seen it come up 3 mtrs overnight and drop 2 the following day.
You Trent lads fish the easiest barbel river in the country and make out it's something special.......It's not..........Get over it.
 
Also wonder how many believe the rubbish they put up ?

Adrian given Wayne has been concentrating on a couple of specific areas think he will know more about what he is doing there than some body who has been fishing little streams watching the fish
 
Get over what ? the guy asked for advice and whats he get the usual nothing useful to say so we will just have a dig ,why dont you 2 get a room and get over this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Robert Beal said:
Also wonder how many believe the rubbish they put up ?

Adrian given Wayne has been concentrating on a couple of specific areas think he will know more about what he is doing there than some body who has been fishing little streams watching the fish
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But of course 'fishing little streams watching the fish' is where it's at Robert when you need to test your angling skills some on here would say,and of course they might consider that fishing for Barbel this way is a whole lot more fulfilling too.
Some might say there ain't much watercraft in chucking out half pound weights and waiting for a tug,whilst others might consider picking off the odd barbel in a small stream to be heart stopping adrenalin filled action that has no equal.
You should try the small streams occasionally, the Erewash or similar? Must be a few rivers up there that hold Barbel apart from the easy TT,:rolleyes:
It's not a North vs South 'Macho' test is it?
 
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