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Info on shimano bait runners

Sorry opening this up again, Just having a mess about with some old rods and reels in my archives, What would be a smaller Shimmy reel this era to a Baitrunner Aero 4010 ? The Super match ? Match style areos ? Reel Fighting / Rear or bait runner.,

Just trying to work out the history and sizes
 

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As has been said, Shimano didn’t do ‘small’ Baitrunners in the early days.

They did very good small rear drag reels - either simple match ‘float’ reels like the Aero Match 3 or fighting drag reels such as the 3000 GT which morphed into the 4000 super GT In about the mid 90’s. I still own both (actually all 3 If you include the Match 3) and they all take the same sized spools ! The fighting drag reels are fantastic and can cope with line up to about 10 lb.

The modern rear drag 4000 fighting drag reel (GT-RD) is a bigger reel and will happily fish 12 lb line. I now use them for Summer barbelling and chub fishing.
 
All the old XT7 shimano baitrunners had the same size bodies.

The 3500-4000-4500 were superseded by 5010-6010-8010.

The 3500 had a smaller rotor and bail arm than the bigger two but the bodies are the same size. The biggest 4500/8010 had deeper spools but the sam diameter as the 4000/6010.

The GT had silver lipped spools, extra bearings and 'go faster' blue decals.

5010/6010/8010 GT's had double handles.

The 3500/5010 is a pretty small reel and would be perfect for an Avon rod in my opinion.
 
I use 3k biomasters rear drag on virtually all my rods save those for bigger carp. My avon harrison 1.6 too. Far easier IMHO to minutely operate the clutch without removing hands from the rod as they are thumb operated
 
Daniel Earl said:
Sorry opening this up again, Just having a mess about with some old rods and reels in my archives, What would be a smaller Shimmy reel this era to a Baitrunner Aero 4010 ? The Super match ? Match style areos ? Reel Fighting / Rear or bait runner.,

Just trying to work out the history and sizes
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I’d not go with the gtm’s and and super aero’s etc for a specialist rod or Avon rod.
the gear ratio is too quick They are match reels with a 6.2:1 ratio.

Dan why 90’s shimano? They were great don’t get me wrong but daiwa had it nailed on with the ss750.

Don’t fight it anymore mate just get the SS 🤣
 
If it's a choice between and old shimano or an SS then it's a no brainer, gor for the Daiwa.

I love the old XT7 shimano's but they don't compare to original SS's.

Personally I think the 750 is too small but I suppose if your holding the rod then weight might come into consideration.

I have a 1000 on my 11ft Torrix and always used them on my 9ft, albeit, carp rods and then old GS2000 size on my 10ft's.

Appreciate others have better knowledge on reel sizes for Avon/specialist rods but I've always wanted the biggest reel I can get away with, rather than the smallest.
 
Richard Isaacs said:
I’d not go with the gtm’s and and super aero’s etc for a specialist rod or Avon rod.
the gear ratio is too quick They are match reels with a 6.2:1 ratio.

Dan why 90’s shimano? They were great don’t get me wrong but daiwa had it nailed on with the ss750.

Don’t fight it anymore mate just get the SS 🤣
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my biomaster rear drags 3k are 5.0"1 which is a nice retrieve rate I find. I have browning mgti which are 4.6:1
 
You don’t get a ‘fighting drag’ on an SS.

I’ve used Shimano fighting drag, rear drag reels since the early ‘90’s. Brilliant Stillwater feeder fishing reels and also great for river work with up to about 10lb line. Mostly 5:1 gear ratio.
 
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