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High or low tips, and why?

Wayne Glossop said:
A warm welcome Patrick!!!
I fish the Trent and i use 15ft rods almost vertical to keep as much line out of the water as possible i also try to set up on the top of the bank to keep even more line out of the water but i also fish a bow in the line to help with the self hooking mate.
Best Wishes!!
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Wayne,

An interesting post is this. I can understand how long rods at the top of the bank and tight lines to the lead can keep the maximum line out of the water in a fast flow, but doing this with a bow in the line rather defeat the object, or have I got the wrong idea of how it works. Can you also expand on how a bow helps the rig to self hook?
 
Wayne Glossop said:
A warm welcome Patrick!!!
I fish the Trent and i use 15ft rods almost vertical to keep as much line out of the water as possible i also try to set up on the top of the bank to keep even more line out of the water but i also fish a bow in the line to help with the self hooking mate.
Best Wishes!!
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Way to go Wayne, none of this fancy pants keeping it down here either on the Lwr Severn, we Seveners like to keep it up...all night sometime too :eek:
 
Keeping it up all night.

Apparently so did the "lady" in Tewksbury with 11 kids by 3 "husbands" and a horse, (good use of ,'s there) thats getting a new home built for her by the Council.........................
 
Jim - do you have to observe the closed season on your stretch? I've heard the rules can be relaxed under exceptional circumstances (if one's well known, of course). :)
 
Richard Hamlyn said:
Wayne,

An interesting post is this. I can understand how long rods at the top of the bank and tight lines to the lead can keep the maximum line out of the water in a fast flow, but doing this with a bow in the line rather defeat the object, or have I got the wrong idea of how it works. Can you also expand on how a bow helps the rig to self hook?
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I was thinking exactly the same, cant quite get my head around the logic of slack lines helping with self hooking:confused::confused: please explain;)
 
I think his works by the same principle of Uptiding when sea fishing from an anchored boat. Google "uptiding" for more info. Sea Angler Magazine has a good article.
 
Richard Hamlyn said:
Wayne,

An interesting post is this. I can understand how long rods at the top of the bank and tight lines to the lead can keep the maximum line out of the water in a fast flow, but doing this with a bow in the line rather defeat the object, or have I got the wrong idea of how it works. Can you also expand on how a bow helps the rig to self hook?
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i think what waynes doing is something that i do myself in flood when i need to be fishing at distance.
i cast upstream put a big bow in it and keep my rod high,the bow allow's you to use less lead and critically balance's the rig. when the fish pick's the bait up it feel's no resistance because of the bow in the line and the bite is the classic drop back(unmissable)
try and catch the same fish on a tight line where they feel the resistance and the vibration's given off by the line singing under tension.
he is also keeping the majority of line out of say if fishing 70 yd then his line is out of the flow over that same distance(makes sense to me:rolleyes:)
 
Spot on John. And importantly its the feeder movement on basically a fixed rig (because of the line tension on the feeder) that results in many more fish being caught because it pretty much ensures the hook catches when it moves.

I showed everyone the importance of having the method in the armoury when I did my Wye Guiding.

Some where amazed that you could actually fish the River 10 feet or more up with 3-4oz, and even more suprised that with pulling 3-4 rod lengths of line off after the weight had hit bottom, you would still get an excellent thump/drop back indication.
 
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I have fished the bow since I was a teen on the trent in the eighties and just updated it for barbelling. Check out Archie Braddocks fantastic feeder fishing.
 
Graham Elliott said:
Spot on John. And importantly its the feeder movement on basically a fixed rig (because of the line tension on the feeder) that results in many more fish being caught because it pretty much ensures the hook catches when it moves.

I showed everyone the importance of having the method in the armoury when I did my Wye Guiding.

Some where amazed that you could actually fish the River 10 feet or more up with 3-4oz, and even more suprised that with pulling 3-4 rod lengths of line off after the weight had hit bottom, you would still get an excellent thump/drop back indication.
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i fished the ribble about 2 month ago and the even though it was in flood the barbel weren't searching for food(low water temps)
i had to go to them and had to fish 40 yd out and although i was picking weed/grass/leaves up i had 3 barbel while others struggled.
this tactic isn't the most enjoyable but certainly can put fish on the bank:)
 
Graham Elliott said:
Spot on John. And importantly its the feeder movement on basically a fixed rig (because of the line tension on the feeder) that results in many more fish being caught because it pretty much ensures the hook catches when it moves.

I showed everyone the importance of having the method in the armoury when I did my Wye Guiding.

Some where amazed that you could actually fish the River 10 feet or more up with 3-4oz, and even more suprised that with pulling 3-4 rod lengths of line off after the weight had hit bottom, you would still get an excellent thump/drop back indication.
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It's a little trick you remind us often on here Graham, and well worth repeating, it does really work well.
 
Graham Elliott said:
Keeping it up all night.

Apparently so did the "lady" in Tewksbury with 11 kids by 3 "husbands" and a horse, (good use of ,'s there) thats getting a new home built for her by the Council.........................
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That's some clever horse, fathering one or more 'children' and getting the council to build a house.
 
Graham Elliott said:
Ade. She had the first at 14 years old and the rest on the trot.
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She appears to be stable now though Graham.

The more I read about this, the more the old saying 'slack as a horses collar' comes to mind, swiftly followed by 'throwing a sausage up an ally'. I was going to say the hole thing is very sad, but maybe not. Seriously though, this really does show what a farce our welfare system has become. It has just become WRONG, in so many ways.

Cheers, Dave.
 
Graham Elliott said:
Keeping it up all night.

Apparently so did the "lady" in Tewksbury with 11 kids by 3 "husbands" and a horse, (good use of ,'s there) thats getting a new home built for her by the Council.........................
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Apparently the existing home is two knocked into one the new house is bigger but can be converted back to two houses when she has no further need for it.
Pretty sure the lady in question is not actually a Tewkesbury lass, but to reassure any of those who intend to load up their pick ups and head down here, relax, she is at least English. :rolleyes:
 
Neil Smart said:
Apparently the existing home is two knocked into one the new house is bigger but can be converted back to two houses when she has no further need for it.
Pretty sure the lady in question is not actually a Tewkesbury lass, but to reassure any of those who intend to load up their pick ups and head down here, relax, she is at least English. :rolleyes:
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Shes following me Neil :eek::eek::eek::eek:... She comes from very near where I used to live in Gloucester, and the house is being built just round the corner from where I live now! - apparantly she's bought a baa ticket and is gonna teach all 14 kids (and her horse) how to fish the severn.

i hope you dont mind, but i put your name forward as a suitable guide :D
 
When there are rafts of weed descending our soft southern rivers I've been known to shove the tip of my rod into the gravel bed to minimise the amount of debris that gets caught on the line. On occasions you actually hear the bite as the rod tip moves the gravel in response to the bite.
 
A quick glimpse into my life Graham.

You may or may not know that I own a few houses on a couple of local estates and my clients are often single mothers.
When interviewing prospective tenants we only advertise locally and we don't bother too much with the traditional references, relying more on ties in the community and local family etc. I work on the premise that if they do get into trouble with the rent or disappear we can track them down easier if we know the mother lives down the road. To do this we usually pop round to where they are now for a chat and get to know them and how they look after where they live at the moment, now my Mrs has got a way of getting these girls to open up and tell her stuff which quite honestly makes my hair curl, I have on more than one occasion been sat there with my mouth open while these girls describe in great detail details of their lives which tbh I would not share with a priest. Think Jeremy Kyle without the inhibitions and you will be getting close.

As you know my memory for details like names and faces is **** and when we are trying to choose who to offer the house to my Mrs has taken to describing prospective tenants by the number of children they have and the number of sires.
For instance she might say, "What did you think of Chardonnay?"
I'll say, "Which one was that?"
Her reply might be, "The 4X3; You know, the youngest is the half brother to the second oldest at number 38".
I might answer, "Oh yeh, her mum is the 5X4 at number 12".

Most of the kids don't have family trees, they have a gorse bush.
 
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