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End of an era or march towards unity?

Lee Fletcher

Senior Member
Dear All,

Given the news about the fantastic barbel recently caught somewhere in barbel land, this might be relevant to specimen anglers here.

This is an extract from a larger article taken from my forthcoming website and highlights the serious plight facing UK Specimen Anglers today.

End of an Era?


When the otter started to decline in the 1950’s, it also heralded the beginning of a new angling culture in the UK as anglers started to target the bigger fish within certain species categories. This was to become known as “specimen angling†which later on would grow beyond every ones expectations. At the same time another industry within the existing UK tackle trade sprang up on the back of this new angling culture which is worth millions of pounds today. So seeing as the major emphasis of specimen angling is seeking to catch the larger fish of any given species, the otter was always going to come into conflict with specimen anglers once it began to return to our river systems. Specialist anglers never had otters in the big fish equation when specimen angling first began so by and large big fish had very few predators.

Alarm bells began to be rung in the specimen angling world in the early 1990’s when it became apparent that otters were decimating carp stocks at certain still water venues. In some cases whole stocks of huge and very valuable carp were wiped out. Otters are more than capable of killing huge carp and can eliminate quite a large number of fish very quickly because otters only eat from a fresh kill. Once they have eaten they will leave the carcass for other predators whilst they seek out another fresh kill for their next meal. Consequently it doesn’t take long before large stocks of big carp are wiped out in lakes and ponds once otters begin to target them. The only way that a still water fishery can protect their fish stocks against otter predation is to erect otter fencing but this is expensive and on large lakes and gravel pits not viable due to the tremendous costs involved.

Fish stocks in rivers and streams can be afforded no protection what so ever so highly prized and sought after fish that specimen anglers seek to catch also fall prey to the otter. UK anglers have already seen this happen along many rivers that contain big fish whilst a worst case scenario became a reality when record sized fish were killed by otters at a couple of venues.
There is no easy answer to the problem of otters predating on large fish whether they come from a still water environment or a river based one. Only a tiny minority of still water fisheries can afford to put up otter fencing and there remains no protection available for rivers. Re stocking might be one answer but there are problems here as well. The UK Environment Agency are reluctant to re stock certain species in certain areas due to a “historical indigenous†argument which could mean that some species could become extinct in certain rivers where re-stocking is not permitted in the after math of otter predation. This will result in a species collapse along some rivers which alone is bad enough. A knock on effect is that the demise of big fish will undoubtedly affect production and sales within the UK tackle trade which of course will affect jobs in the long term. Added to which, it is not possible to re-stock specimen sized fish anyway. They have to grow on to become specimen sized fish after going into the natural environment they are stocked into as juveniles. Here again there are risks involved because juveniles stocked face another set of problems arising from floods, water abstraction, predation from a range of other predators and pollution. Plus many species in rivers are facing serious recruitment problems due to their habitats and spawning grounds being eroded due to bad land management in adjacent areas that effect nearby rivers directly.

UK Specialist Angling is about to face its biggest challenge even though it is perhaps at its zenith in popularity. Otters will undoubtedly continue to spread throughout our counties river systems whilst continuing to prey on specimen size fish stocks. This will ultimately result in the collapse of specimen sized fish along many rivers and still waters within river systems. Otters will continue to thrive because they will simply predate on other sizes of fish once the larger fish have all gone. In a way this will be preferable because the otter will at least eat the whole fish instead of leaving most of a larger carcass to rot after eating only a part of it. The long term affect is otters will still thrive but specialist angling as we know it today will fall into decline because you can’t angle for fish that simply aren’t there any longer.

In specialist angling terms this is bad enough, but there is a knock on effect to the demise of our larger sized fish stocks that the rest of angling will have to face. Once the larger fish have gone otters will begin to prey on the smaller sizes but here the otter has competition from a range of other predators like mink and many types of piscivorous birds. It is a mistake to simply brush predation off by stating that predators will “find their own levels naturally†because in most cases whilst some might eventually, the species that they all prey upon goes into rapid decline first way before the predators find a “balanceâ€. This will ultimately mean that other branches of angling will see their fish stocks decline as well. Match anglers and pleasure anglers on still waters and rivers will see a marked decline in smaller sizes of certain species. Game anglers on many rivers and still waters will also see trout and salmon stocks decline with a subsequent decline in the year classes of these fish. Great lengths and vast amounts of money have been spent on Atlantic salmon restoration programmes, so just when we are starting to see positive results from all that hard work, a fully protected apex predator now poses a serious threat to the Atlantic salmons revival in the UK. Then there is the serious question about spawning sites for all species of freshwater fish. There is no doubt that otters will begin to target spawning sites once fish begin their yearly congregations. How will this affect fish recruitment in the long term if we have no method of control?

Historically man has always been our planets greatest predator with a long and infamous history for plunder and mismanagement of our world’s resources. But within a few decades man has gone from sometimes being over reactive when dealing with predation to being totally none reactive in certain cases. In effect we have pulled our own teeth over the question of dealing with predation forcing ourselves to be mere spectators whilst things go wrong. But will things go wrong?

There is no doubt that UK rivers have become cleaner and definitely cleaner than they were years ago when UK industry used our river systems as drains for their effluent and waste products. Indeed it is healthier rivers which have aided the otter revival. Fish recruitment on many rivers is high but on others it is extremely low for a variety of manmade reasons. We now have a serious problem with cormorant predation and the Britton Report in the 1990’s proved that conclusively. Signal crayfish now pose a very serious threat to our native white clawed crayfish as well as a serious threat to the aquatic environment and fish recruitment in and around spawning sites.

It remains to be seen what impact mink will have long term on our fish stocks but I suspect that will be nothing like the impact otters make. Indeed, otters have already created a massive impact on mature fish stocks at certain still waters and river venues.

The way I see it is this. Historically man has walked in wild places and left far more than his footprints behind. By and large he has made a pretty bad job of looking after our planet in the past with more natural misdemeanours to his name than any other species on Earth. Then around 30 years ago a new type of politically correct Homo sapiens stood up and rose above the chaos. It was man’s time to become green so he started to seriously consider our green and pleasant lands and the creatures that live in it. The trouble is, man is not yet able to shake off his natural ability for getting things woefully wrong even in the face of trying to put things right. In our quest for the protection of a minority of species, we have completely forgotten to protect the majority of species that their protection will affect. That is not good conservation, it’s just bad management and lets face facts here, man has the sole responsibility for the stewardship of planet Earth and that responsibility should involve the protection and preservation of all species not just a few.

Or March Towards Unity?

With UK recreational angling reputed to be worth 3.5 billion pounds to local and national economies we anglers hold a right to have a fee paying voice at least. Where that voice will emanate from is yet to be determined but I quite like what the Predation Action Group has said in the past and the patrons and members of the PAG are at least specialist anglers so are qualified to speak for big fish anglers. Make no mistake, as specialist anglers we are facing our biggest challenge to date. Our sport is totally reliant on there being big fish of any given species being available to fish for. Without big fish, there is no specimen angling and it really is about it all coming down to that.

There is no doubt that barbel fishing is entering a new age as many rivers begin to throw up fish we could only ever dream about before just a relatively short time ago. However, we have already seen record sized barbel and potentially record sized fish get killed by otters. We now see huge fish being caught from a variety of rivers but how long will it be before these very same fish end up on the bank half eaten? We simply can't fish for fish that aren't there.

I have always maintained that UK anglers would unite once their hearts and minds were reached or our way of life and sport become seriously threatened.

We can continue to sit back and do nothing. Talk is cheap. But I have spent my entire life amongst watery places with most of that time spent in the pursuit of big fish like most of us I would imagine. It will be a sad day indeed if specimen angling declined through predation of big fish until it wasn't worth doing any longer.

Regards,

Lee Fletcher.
 
Hmm, there is a contradiction here Lee, since the dedicated specimen hunter is often dependant on catching the remnants of dying fish populations. Self sustaining, naturally balanced fisheries rarely produce super-sized specimens.
For example, the only river I fish where the barbel aren't in decline is the Wye. It's no coincidence that the Wye doesn't produce massive barbel, and as a consequence is of no interest to the dedicated barbel specimen hunter.
Ironic really, isn't it?
 
Hmm, there is a contradiction here Lee, since the dedicated specimen hunter is often dependant on catching the remnants of dying fish populations. Self sustaining, naturally balanced fisheries rarely produce super-sized specimens.
For example, the only river I fish where the barbel aren't in decline is the Wye. It's no coincidence that the Wye doesn't produce massive barbel, and as a consequence is of no interest to the dedicated barbel specimen hunter.
Ironic really, isn't it?

A fair few Salmon frequent the Wye as well , I reckon a '' balance '' in terms of Otters may have been brought about with chaps with guns ...
Re the article , very well written and thought out , however we can unite all we like, but there will never be a legally sanctioned cull of otters . I can't think of an issue less likely to win votes . Yes our MP's are supposed to represent our views in parliament , which ultimately is where change happens . However in the real world backing a cull of Otters would be political suicide .
 
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Hi men,

Agreed Mike , good post , but anglers should all pull together anyway , if only for the sake of good representation , building a body that have to be taken seriously , that's obviously the AT .

Hatter
 
There will NEVER be a natural balance whilst near too death Otter cubs are being nurtured back to full health and then re-released somewhere else.
In my opinion this is as big a problem as releasing them in the 90,s..
They should be left to die just the same as any other animals, even the RSPCA have raised concerns.
So in reality YES Otters are being still re-released. These groups wont stop until EVERY single bit of freshwater in the UK has resident Otters.
So as to regarding the original post, yes you are probably right Freshwater Angling is in serious trouble.
 
I should have added that the natural, relatively long life span of many of the species that the specimen angler targets, allowed him to enjoy the fruits of a particular dying fish population for quite an extended period of time.
That was until along came the cormorant that prematurely finished off the specimen roach.
And then along came the otter that prematurely finished off the specimen barbel.

Largely I agree with the sentiments of Lee's post, but I don't think it should be focused on the specimen angler.
 
Hi Ash,

Hopefully before the start of the rivers season this year. Its already got a lot of content already but I want a fair bit more before it goes live. The site is not just about fishing but contains a strong wildlife section plus another called "country days" all about country ways. There is a dedicated link between my site and this one.

Hi Tim,

Not so sure about the contradiction Tim but I take your point about the larger fish possibly being over half way in their lives if that's what you mean? Plus the river Trent is definitely a self sustaining river with fantastic natural recruitment which also contains super-sized specimens. It also has otters and I'll stick my neck out and say that otters perhaps won't effect big fish along it but then again look at what's happening along the Severn?

Hi Mike,

You are absolutely right about any cull. And for my own part I would not want to see a cull on otters anyway. Our own politicians are pretty powerless when it comes to any cull of a EU fully protected species so that is never was going to be on the cards whilst we remain in the EU. A major problem for anglers when trying to resolve the problem of loosing big fish to otters was always going to be Tarka tinted glasses and the way the majority of the UK population regards otters. Indeed, its the one issue where anglers could loose its triple A rating for being quaint scruffy harmless eccentric individuals in the public eye. So presently we retain our traditional high ground for harmlessness whilst the otter bathes in adulation from an adoring public glued to programes like Springwatch.

Hi Mark,

You might well be right about the AT but for me presently that remains to be seen. I do however like some of the messages coming out of the Predation Action Group who of course report back to the AT who take the message from the PAG upstairs to the funny farm in Westminster. I've got absolutely no confidence in the babbling gaggle sitting on either side of the house so expect very little from that lot over any issue anyway. Even so doing nothing means we merely wait until its too late. I told you so won't stop the dust gathering on fishing tackle that's left in a corner because there's no point in taking it out to use it because there is no big fish left.

Regards,

Lee.
 
Hi Lee,
what I mean is that the presence of super-sized specimens is USUALLY an indicator that a NATURAL population of fish is in decline. I'm not familiar with the Trent, but would be surprised if the super specimens are produced within large populations of other fish. Super specimens normally only exist where there is a very low biomass of fish competing for the available food. Vast quantities of food introduced by anglers, or fish that have migrated from areas with a low population density could alter the situation.
 
Hi Tim,

By super specimens are you talking about record sized fish? The Trent definitely has huge barbel and these barbel live within huge populations of other barbel. Its the same story with the chub and the carp. A friend of mine caught three chub over 6lb in a single day amongst a catch of around twenty other chub. Carp to around fifty pounds and again these fish live amongst very large carp populations. The pike population is big but Trent pike tend to live in pockets.

I suppose the Trent is perhaps unlike other rivers in this regard which is kind of surprising seeing as it was once so polluted.

Regards,

Lee.
 
back in the 50s there was an abundance of employment mainly due to 2 world wars and their legacies, employment and cash in pockets gave the working man much more time and opportunity to enjoy his hobbies,
i think its more this what enabled men to seek specimen fish than any other
factor.
as far as otters eating large carp back in the 50s its a wrong impression, large carp back in the 50s were doubles if you were very lucky and the majority of carp anglers would find the hardest task was finding a water that held carp, now otters would have had a lean time relying on eating big carp,
sorry but i felt this needed airing, otters ? well i would think they are much more a problem to fisheries these days than ever before due mainly to goverment protection and what i see as irresponsible breeding and releasing of new populations of otters
especially in waters which could possibly sustain a small population but definately not the further generations of offspring,
its the lck of foresight with breeding and releasing thats the real problem and even with foresight there would still be a need for keeping the otter population at sensible levels
 
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specimen sized fish back in late 50s early 60s, carp 10 lbs. tench 6lbs.chub 5lbs. roach2lbs. bream 6lbs well maybe not totally accurate but from memory
most anglers would have settled for those weights, bait quality water quality ect has made great inroads as far as weights go now, plus fishermen have much greater access to waters (transport ect) than ever before.
 
Hi Lee, I suppose I'd call a super-sized barbel 16lb+ these days. If fish of that calibre are produced on the Trent from within a large biomass of fish, then that would be exceptional. If they haven't migrated from another area of the river with a low biomass, I can only think that there must be an extraordinary amount of food available, unless there is some other unusual factor such as the influx of warm water from a power station, for example. The introduction of huge quantities of pellets or boilies of a size that only large fish can eat would be a possible explanation? Or maybe the Trent barbel are the exception that prove the rule?
 
Great read Lee and fully support your views, apathy will kill our sport and unity is the way forward undoubtedly. There is still lots of anglers who are happy to ride this out but they are misguided by theiir thoughts.

Jon
 
Hi Jon,
How you doing? Well I hope.

There is a lot of anglers who understandably see things in a different light. Fair enough I fully understand their thoughts on how good it is to see otters back again. Truth is most have never seen an otter in the wild and many will struggle to see one seeing as the otter likes to hunt at night. I fish along the Trent and we definitely have otters and I've been lucky enough to have watched them. I am also lucky in that I really don't believe the Trent will be effected by their presence simply because there is more than enough food to sustain them presently. But whilst this might be true I am especially mindful of other angler on other rivers and what might be in store for them.

Hi Tim,

The Trent is perhaps unique in regards to its biodiversity. Yes it has an amazing amount of natural food in it now and I feel this is down to the rivers water quality. Snails for example carpet the river bed with vast amounts of invertebrates present also. In years gone by power stations along the Trent used to spew out hot water into the river and that made for some amazing chub fishing in the winter months. That doesn't happen now.

When I was head bailiff at Lady Pit Farm on the Trent I used to watch the barbel begin to assemble at what undoubtedly is, the largest spawning site for barbel along the entire middle river, perhaps the whole river. Hundreds of thousands of barbel assemble there every year and to watch them is simply amazing as they congregate shoulder to shoulder, head to tail. The same site is also a major spawning ground for chub, roach, bream and dace which is why the Calverton Fish Farm take fish away from Lady Pit in the close season for egg stripping.

Regards,

Lee.
 
Lee it was good to read your considered and thoughtful post. Short of a cull, and i accept that that is very unlikely to ever happen, really what can we do? I'm afraid we anglers are powerless.
 
Powerless? legally speaking with regards to a cull, yes. There is an effective control measure available, not directly, more a by product of a legal practice, eel netting! If every river fishery owner applied and obtained an eel netting licence, Fyke nets placed correctly to trap eels have a rather unfortunate habit of trapping the ever inquisative otter, and even more unfortunately drowning them!!!!! Accidents do happen!
peter
 
Hi Peter,

Whilst I'm sure your post was perhaps tongue in cheek, you may already know it is a bylaw which states otter guards "must" be in place when using nets for eels. Not that I would consider using one for eels and certainly not otters. Seeing as the European eel has gone into massive decline I'm amazed the EA are still issuing licenses.

Hi Graham,

Like you I'm also afraid we are powerless to do anything given the wording of the present protective legislation. John Wilson MBE wrote a powerful article so if you type in A report from John Wilson MBE, Compiled Oct-November 2010 it should bring up a google link to take you there.

Regards,

Lee.
 
The Otter is a protected species..As far as im aware it is against the law to interfere with Otters, including where they live ( holts ) etc..So you would think, that by picking one up, even if its a injured cub, you are in fact breaking the law..
 
While looking for information on boat licences I came across this web page

Save the Otter

Now I know that people supporting the otter isn't uncommon but if you scroll down you'll see where your donation to 'save' the otter goes to.

The first thing is stocking the canal with fish!

Sureley this means that the people who are encouraging these predators also understand that the eco system they are introducing them to is not a viable one unless they introduce food articificially?
 
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