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Nick, if on the Stour and big chub are in the area, this time of year try a gallon of bronze maggots, crystal waggler, 2 fake maggots on a size 14 Drennan Super Spade and fire 8 - 10 maggots in with every cast..... Should see the gutty bugers feeding with wild abandon.

If that fails a small lump of paste (pellet based, cheese or boilie base mix) on a size 12 or 10 hook and like Stu says fish after dark is best.
On the Cherwell make sure your bait is no more than a metre from where they're holed up because they won't willingly break cover even in the dark.
(Stour chub aren't quite as territorial, IMO)
 
Nick Franklin said:
Lovely fish Stu. I can't seem to get above 5lb with Chub, which is frustrating to say the least as I know there are much bigger fish in the areas/swims I target.... Any tips for getting through to the bigger fish from you Chub experts (Colin)?
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Just time and luck! Fish as many swims/areas as you can and keep your eyes/ears open. ;)
 
Colin Gordon said:
Nick, if on the Stour and big chub are in the area, this time of year try a gallon of bronze maggots, crystal waggler, 2 fake maggots on a size 14 Drennan Super Spade and fire 8 - 10 maggots in with every cast..... Should see the gutty bugers feeding with wild abandon.

If that fails a small lump of paste (pellet based, cheese or boilie base mix) on a size 12 or 10 hook and like Stu says fish after dark is best.
On the Cherwell make sure your bait is no more than a metre from where they're holed up because they won't willingly break cover even in the dark.
(Stour chub aren't quite as territorial, IMO)
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Great stuff but why a waggler? Seems like the poor old stick float get's forgotten, and yet its a better float for moving water in most occasions.
 
Cheers for the tips everybody, sounds like I'm going about things in the right way just a matter of luck and time... Or lack of it! Proper bogey species for me at the moment.
 
As you said mate, you're fishing the right areas that are known to hold decent fish (anywhere on the Thames around Oxford will do!), so I'm sure it won't be long at all before a few nice fish start turning up.

It's the barbel that are the problem around here!!!
 
I've fished a bit on the wavon myself this year - a nice quiet (and free) stretch that I've discovered! Will send you a PM.
 
Neil Smart said:
Great stuff but why a waggler? Seems like the poor old stick float get's forgotten, and yet its a better float for moving water in most occasions.
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Neil, you are right to a degree but when trotting for chub I prefer the bait to go through the water off of the bottom and at the same speed as the loose feed, as if you get them really competing for the bait you'll have bites on the drop and wagglers are best in this case.
Also if trotting tight to the far bank and if casting 15 yards+ wagglers are easier controlled.
 
Colin Gordon said:
Neil, you are right to a degree but when trotting for chub I prefer the bait to go through the water off of the bottom and at the same speed as the loose feed, as if you get them really competing for the bait you'll have bites on the drop and wagglers are best in this case.
Also if trotting tight to the far bank and if casting 15 yards+ wagglers are easier controlled.
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Far bank with distance yep I can see that but the rest of the reasons given I really can't see the benefit of a waggler over a stick, surely the reasons you give for the waggler can be duplicated with a stick?

Now I was stick fishing for roach yesterday and typical roach the were finnicky, the presentation had to be spot on to get a bite, in fact you had to anticipate a bite at times, and strike, like a 6th sense, weird...but my point is I would probably not have hooked up as much with a waggler given the way it is attached to the mainline as opposed to a 'in line' stick float. But then again Chub are more aggresive feeders so this might not be a factor, however I would say a stick float on a river is the better tool for the most part.

Not trying to be confrontational just intruiged and willing to learn any new tricks for an old dog.
 
You can't beat the 'Wag' for far bank, next to overhanging cover (which you can cast really tight to). Plus the 'fall' of your bait through the water is more natural IMO.
Also Neil I think the strike is just as clean if not cleaner because of the way a waggler 'folds' with little resistance on the strike.
The obvious down side of the waggler is that the wind conditions need to be just right in order to maintain maximum control of the trot.
At the end of the day both methods can be brilliant on their day and the stick is probably more flexible when conditions change for the worse!
 
Neil, the main reasons I'd select a waggler over a stick particularly on the Stour being; if feeding little and often style, you'll frequently draw the fish away from the snags, also in doing so they're prone to moving up in the water and to my mind the waggler offers the best presentation on the drop, couple this the points made by Keith and this why I'd select a wag in preference to a stick for chub.

Also worth a thought, Keith said about a changing wind, if during the day a strong downstream wind starts up, a stick becomes very hard work whereas a waggler still works.

IMO, wagglers are best fished with the last metre of line to your float sunk and the rest of the main line floating.
 
These Chub on Throop dont play by the rules..;)..As soon as its dark you dont get a single tap!!!.Im sure these chub only feed on sight because they know its harder for them to be caught..;)
 
No Craig, admit it your casting is poor in the dark, so you're miles away from the 'zone'.:D

I've always found as winter gets on and even as spring starts, especially if the river is running low and clear.
The witching hour up until midnight is tops, also as the quantity of anglers bait drops off they'll start behaving a bit more naturally.;)
 
After saying I couldn't break the 5lb barrier... I went and had a 6 from the Thames! But then had a 3lber from the Warks Avon so normal service is resumed :D
 
Fantastic Chub Rich !:eek:
I've been kicking my heels at catching one 12oz lighter than that :D but there are bigger from where i caught mine.... so they'd better watch out cos i'll be after 'em this winter :p
 
Had this 6lb6oz fish a few nights ago, it’s my first six of the season, Nick had his six five minutes later!

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I have had quite a few fives but have struggled to find anything bigger so far. Not complaining though!:)

Tom.
 
Nice fish, Tom. Looks like it's got a bit of filling out to do over the next few months too... would love to catch it in March and see how big it went.
 
Cheers, it was quite a wide fish but felt very empty.
I had a 5lb2oz fish last weekend that was looking allot more full.
Roll on winter (Not for the Barbel campaign though!)

Tom.
 
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