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Camo Leads!!!

Keith,

I think Dave means could you make a copy of a standard gripper lead...the flat pear shape with nobbles for gripping the bottom. I would think it possible to form nobbles with the material you are using Keith?

Alternatively, could you mould your material around the top of an existing gripper lead, leaving the original nobbles sticking out of the bottom? With a bit of luck, the lead would then make it heavier at the base, ensuring it landed grippers down each time?

Just a thought :D

Cheers, Dave.
 
David Hall said:
right dave.
after all, how dos a barbel know what a stone looks like..lol
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I would have thought that if the whole upper surface was in the moulded material so it DID look like a stone, with only the base grippers protruding...and they were burried in the river bottom, doing their gripping thing...then it wouldn't matter TOO much even if the barbel had a copy of 'The Little Book of Stone Recognition' tucked under their fin.

Could be wrong of course :rolleyes:

Cheers, Dave.
 
Keith, just received my selection of Fimo from craftyarts, Thanks for the heads up. Thanks also to Jez for the link to a supplier. :) Cheers guys.
 
David Hall said:
could you make grips, like a stone grip type from this.
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If thats a serious question David - i guess you make a mould out of the stuff first - pressing it against a gripper, remove gripper and you should be left with the imprint - then baking it until hard - the next mix is pushed into the mould you have made before being removed and baked.
 
Good idea, should work but you would have to 'hang' the leads in the oven so that any protusions created (which on entry to the oven are soft) are not flattened.
I must add that if I needed a gripper I would probably use those already commercially available!
 
Keith Humphreys said:
Anyone tried it yet?????
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I am still trying to work out why you deme camouflage on a lead is so important that you would go to all this trouble to produce one....and yet dismiss the questions about the viability of a gripper version by stating that If you needed a gripper, you would buy a commercially available lead one :rolleyes:

Cheers, Dave.
 
Used to make weights for sea fishing many years ago, and used copper wire if i wanted a gripper type lead. Don't know if you can use this principal with the oven bake material though, but it worked for for sea fishing :confused:

Steve
 
Dave, it's just a question of simplicity! I was loking for an easy way to produce a lead that looked like a stone on a gravel bottom in clear water conditions which was easy to produce and offered good weight to size ratio. Grippers would be difficult to produce and and I only use grippers when I'm fishing floodwater (coloured) conditions therefore see no advantage in a lead that looks like a stone??;)

Derek have you tried it yet??
 
Yeah but maybe the supremely cagey barbel can smell lead and perhaps they know exactly what stone type is natural to their river...... Hmm there's a thought. :rolleyes:
BUT
Next big quandary in barbel angling must surely be: Can barbel detect the magnetic field emitted by Ferrous metal hooks. :D :D
 
Colin Gordon said:
A yeah but does a barbel not have a brain (albeit small) and do brains not produce electric charges, hence my fears.:rolleyes: :D :D
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I read somewhere that certain fish have the ability to use tools. Hope its not the Barbel, imagine if it got the hang of using a hacksaw,or even worse, forceps :eek:
 
Colin Gordon said:
A yeah but does a barbel not have a brain (albeit small) and do brains not produce electric charges, hence my fears.:rolleyes: :D :D
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Unfortunately Gordon the electrical currents in a fishes brain are contained inside a dielectric material and cannot flow through the hook otherwise the barbel would be cabbage like cos it wouldn't be able to think.

If the barbel had electric lips as soon as a current started to flow and it detected the magnetic field it would be much more concerned with the force induced by a nice carbon, cane or even glass fibre fishing rod.

I reckon quandary over.

Respectfully

Conrad

PS Yes I am talking absolute twoddle but he started it :D
 
Conrad Farlow said:
Unfortunately Gordon the electrical currents in a fishes brain are contained inside a dielectric material and cannot flow through the hook otherwise the barbel would be cabbage like cos it wouldn't be able to think.

If the barbel had electric lips as soon as a current started to flow and it detected the magnetic field it would be much more concerned with the force induced by a nice carbon, cane or even glass fibre fishing rod.

I reckon quandary over.

Respectfully

Conrad

PS Yes I am talking absolute twoddle but he started it :D
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If you need any more twaddle to peruse :D

There was a theory circulating amongst carp fishers some time ago which stated (if my memory serves me well...which would be a first :D) that once your rig was submerged in water, the lead would act as an anode and the hook as a cathode, causing a weak electrical current to be produced. It further claimed that fish were able to detect this field, and so vacated the area :eek:

Having decided that this clever stuff was all quite beyond me, I decided to just carry on fishing and catching fish. I was never too sure if the guys who came up with the theory actually gave up fishing on the grounds that it was obviously impossible to catch fish using a standard rig...or not...................:D:D:D

What a great hobby :D

Cheers, Dave.
 
So if the various electrical theories are correct, would not covering the lead in a non-conductive material (such as a plastic based material eg 'FIMO') alleviate this percieved problem!;);)
 
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