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Are you happy to pay to watch fishing videos?

The more I think about it, the more I think it makes sense for the likes of Martin Bowler to produce quality content behind a paywall. No adverts, no product placement and the producers will hopefully have more freedom to produce interesting stuff rather than being dictated to by their sponsors.
 
Martin Bowler In a statement I am sure.. that the direction of his videos where not received as well as he would have liked when doing them with ether sticky or Drennan it was one of a multitude of reasons he started a new journey, i like his style I thinks he’s a great bloke and love how he fished for anything anywhere.

So now he has his own direction of travel I respect that he can only answer to him self.

I was bought a subscription for a Christmas for a year for Cypography it’s ok, I won’t renew this year but if mrs e wants to do it again ild be up for suggesting Martin B channel as I think it will be a good mix.

I do have the angling times still every week because I like print, once I’m done the old boy in fish with takes them so they do the rounds which is nice.
 
I was provisionally interested Fishflix, having seen a few teaser snippets via Martin Bowler's instagram over the past few months. It looked as though it was aiming at the 'Passion-esque' kinda vibe, rather anything overly instructional or specifically promoting gear.

I much prefer that variety of YouTube content over the 'how to' type stuff, usually presented by sales-anglers that I find contrived & OTT with their false charisma and 'down your throat' approach to product placement and overstated benefits of specific products. Some of the stuff Sticky has produced over the last few years has been nothing short of awesome in its videography and overall quality (Not just the Bowler & Yates ones). As others have mentioned, the Drennan & ESP stuff has been top quality too. I really enjoy the Terry Hearn ones, in spite of having next to zero interest in Carp related stuff. Some of the amateur/one man band stuff is okay too, but you have to wade through a fair bit of dross.

However, regarding the launch of Fishfix on Sunday (I think), I found the length of the first set of videos a bit surprising, personally. Most of the first run of content is shorter than half an hour. I would think the sweet spot would've been 45-60 minutes. Particularly as they don't look like they've just been thrown together.

I think Fishflix have also missed a bit of a trick in not offering a short free trial whilst the content is limited to the initial launched content, then they could've 'flooded' it with further appealing content slightly further down the line.

Personally, I would've happily paid the cost of approx 2.5 cups of takeaway coffee a month for a subscription with some decent mixed coarse fishing programmes - but I'd want something I could sit down and enjoy & immerse myself into for a bit, rather than 20 minute sound-bites. I suppose that's indicative of the way we consume online content these days, but as it stands, it doesn't look like it's for me.

I should add, I wish them the very best of luck. Fair play for giving it a bash.
 
Alex Warren said:
I was provisionally interested Fishflix, having seen a few teaser snippets via Martin Bowler's instagram over the past few months. It looked as though it was aiming at the 'Passion-esque' kinda vibe, rather anything overly instructional or specifically promoting gear.

I much prefer that variety of YouTube content over the 'how to' type stuff, usually presented by sales-anglers that I find contrived & OTT with their false charisma and 'down your throat' approach to product placement and overstated benefits of specific products. Some of the stuff Sticky has produced over the last few years has been nothing short of awesome in its videography and overall quality (Not just the Bowler & Yates ones). As others have mentioned, the Drennan & ESP stuff has been top quality too. I really enjoy the Terry Hearn ones, in spite of having next to zero interest in Carp related stuff. Some of the amateur/one man band stuff is okay too, but you have to wade through a fair bit of dross.

However, regarding the launch of Fishfix on Sunday (I think), I found the length of the first set of videos a bit surprising, personally. Most of the first run of content is shorter than half an hour. I would think the sweet spot would've been 45-60 minutes. Particularly as they don't look like they've just been thrown together.

I think Fishflix have also missed a bit of a trick in not offering a short free trial whilst the content is limited to the initial launched content, then they could've 'flooded' it with further appealing content slightly further down the line.

Personally, I would've happily paid the cost of approx 2.5 cups of takeaway coffee a month for a subscription with some decent mixed coarse fishing programmes - but I'd want something I could sit down and enjoy & immerse myself into for a bit, rather than 20 minute sound-bites. I suppose that's indicative of the way we consume online content these days, but as it stands, it doesn't look like it's for me.

I should add, I wish them the very best of luck. Fair play for giving it a bash.
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I had a look in on Fishflix earlier. I know what you mean about the feature length, maybe that will increase as subscriptions roll in?

I think a PPV model would suit me more than a monthly subs tbh. Or the option of just being able to sign up for a trial period, e.g one month. So I'll probably not sign up just at the moment, maybe when there is more content.
 
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I'm not sure we actually have a great deal of choice when it comes to free, quality multi species content available. Depends on your interpretation of quality i suppose.

£8 a month seems a no brainer to me. Less than a few hooks or a couple tins of spam etc etc...

It will very clearly be well made, well produced and cover many many aspects of angling there is little in quality film about currently.
 
Guy Leeder said:
I'm not sure we actually have a great deal of choice when it comes to free, quality multi species content available. Depends on your interpretation of quality i suppose.

£8 a month seems a no brainer to me. Less than a few hooks or a couple tins of spam etc etc...

It will very clearly be well made, well produced and cover many many aspects of angling there is little in quality film about currently.
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Tbh I‘d pay £8 not to have to watch a program about eels though
 
Hi men

Been a cypograhy and carpfix for a while , but now stopped my payments as there is only so many ways of doing it , before as now they put some sort of silly challenges to freshen it up . Carpfix was worth it just for Peckys big carp story's , awesome inspiring stuff . Too many means it's white noise in the end . Worth going back onto YouTube when the pandemic was on for Dave Lanes videos where he basically told the story of his books , very entertaining, especially as I have all of them 👍.

Terry's video out tomorrow, they are the very best .

Hatter
 
Mark Anderson said:
Hi men

Been a cypograhy and carpfix for a while , but now stopped my payments as there is only so many ways of doing it , before as now they put some sort of silly challenges to freshen it up . Carpfix was worth it just for Peckys big carp story's , awesome inspiring stuff . Too many means it's white noise in the end . Worth going back onto YouTube when the pandemic was on for Dave Lanes videos where he basically told the story of his books , very entertaining, especially as I have all of them 👍.

Terry's video out tomorrow, they are the very best .

Hatter
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The Dave Lane stories during covid were superb. 'Obsession with carp' is one of my favourite angling books, so it was great to hear him relive those stories. His power of recall is nothing short of phenomenal.
 
Neil Blood said:
No I wouldn’t pay. Didn’t Matt Hayes try a similar subscription video venture and failed?

I’m quite happy watching Fish with Carl videos on YouTube. High quality professional videos and he has 490K subscribers, so guess he makes a living from sponsors (Korda and Guru), along with YouTube advertising revenue. This seems to be the way to go.

Ginger Fishermen is watchable although it’s getting a bit ’samey’. Life on the Bank also does some good videos and especially his ‘Perch Masters’ series. Always look forward to Drennan Specialist videos and I like the way they don’t go over the top with product placement 👍🏻

On the YouTube downside there’s also a lot of boring amateurish video bloggers, which add nothing. Also not keen on Korum Videos, which could learn something from Drennan’s more professional approach with less product placement 👎🏻

Just pick and choose, which channels you subscribe to 👍🏻
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Ginger Fisherman irritates me, plus he targets pike through the spring and summer, plus yes, very samey
 
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