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Are barbel the new carp?

I say chaps,

Roger Wyndham Barnes says that barbel are The New Rock and Roll

and who am I to argue.


Regards

Hugo



 
Paul Boote said:
Yeah? You and whose army?

Just watch it, Yorkie Boy, or you'll be getting my Free Full Metal Top Gun Armalite Ballista Spirit (with outsized SiCs, including a 60mm. butt ring) where the sun don't shine.

PS - Would you be so kind as to forward me the route to Collingham as it is not to be found on any map that I have.
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Good whack with with a stout section of greenheart would sort you out my lad . Re directions , just keep going north on the M1 until you start feeling colder, turn right at the next exit and you won't be far off
 
The Chairman on Wednesday


As young Paul's Second I'll be lending him the necessary furs and having Olga drive us up in late '20s Bentley Speed Six.

Whatever the outcome, let's have a party afterwards.


As ever,

B.B.
 
Does anyone remember the time when we were all 'all-rounders'. We would start the season with tench and bream then move on to carp, when the schools broke up and the kids hit the pools that was my cue to head for the river and start my chub and barbel season, this carried on through summer with the odd roach and dace foray until the leaves started to turn and the kids went back to school, then it was perch and later on with the advent of the first frosts the pike season started. Winter quarry was dictated by the weather, a mild spell would have me chasing the barbel while a prolonged dry cold spell had me fishing bread for chub or perhaps a bit of pikeing. a final flurry for barbel in the closing weeks would sometimes throw up a bonus biggy.
The close season for coarse fishing coincided with the start of the trout season and so it carried on, fly, worm or spin.....As a Welshman I'm not fussy, A couple of trips for tope in late May early June and it was tench time again.........Why don't we do that now?
 
-- self, 12:02pm:

For me carp and barbel were just two species I fished for.

I began barbelling first (aged 10), then carping (aged 12, though I had had an accidental, mindboggling 4.5-pound common on float from a Wokingham lake when I was 9), got carping seriously in my early to mid teens (18.25 pound mirror from Cut Mill in Surrey when I was sixteen - big fish back then), yet continued barbelling as the Thames was closer, then the Kennet once I had a car, then stopped carping after a move to Wales in the 1970s (bad attack of sea-trout, salmon, mullet and bass mania) and never went back to it as, by the time I returned to south-east England, once-quiet waters were no longer quiet. So I went mad on barbel and several other species with fly, lure and bait. Got back into carping in recent years, though - small-river carping, with fish to 22.75 pounds. Magic.

All species of equal interest and merit, all requiring differing approaches and disciplines, all requiring good angling and some thinking before, during and after to catch them consistently.

I consider myself very fortunate to have had such a wealth of "new stuff" to go after, and would hate to be compartmentalized fishing-wise as many beginners seem almost forced to be now.
 
Adrian Williams said:
Does anyone remember the time when we were all 'all-rounders'. We would start the season with tench and bream then move on to carp, when the schools broke up and the kids hit the pools that was my cue to head for the river and start my chub and barbel season, this carried on through summer with the odd roach and dace foray until the leaves started to turn and the kids went back to school, then it was perch and later on with the advent of the first frosts the pike season started. Winter quarry was dictated by the weather, a mild spell would have me chasing the barbel while a prolonged dry cold spell had me fishing bread for chub or perhaps a bit of pikeing. a final flurry for barbel in the closing weeks would sometimes throw up a bonus biggy.
The close season for coarse fishing coincided with the start of the trout season and so it carried on, fly, worm or spin.....As a Welshman I'm not fussy, A couple of trips for tope in late May early June and it was tench time again.........Why don't we do that now?
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Some of us do , some of us do ...
 
Simples,ban night fishing,bivvies and bed chairs and vast majority of these big kippers would never get caught this way.
Most of the Big Fish are targeted 24/7 ,are known to be in residence in a particular swim,are fed heavily to fatten them up,and are relentlessly pursued till they make the fatal error and are then proudly held as a trophy shot.

What makes me chuckle ,is that the captors then make up some glorious tale about how it was a chance encounter,and how they put themselves out,or had a primeval urge to return ,because they heard dogs barking on a full moon when nearly back to there car after climbing Everest .

These captures are not by accident,they are the result of relentless campaigns ,in all weathers,and the fish are fattened like geese for foi gras.
I am not condemning them,or their dedication,but eventually the fish will slip up ,and the result achieved.

Bigger rivers are still an unknown quantity,Tidal Trent,Lwr Severn,etc,and bivvie tactics work well and are often needed as weather and exposure can be a cruel mistress,and bites at a premium.

Get rid of things like Drennan Cups and other similar competitions and take the money away,and the then the circuit anglers who know where all the big fish reside would not be so driven to get that mugshot and weekly award.
Angling is a personal journey,with many phases,but I do find many aspects very distasteful ,frankly,and far to much emphasis is placed on size of fish or species.

Above all enjoy it,whatever the size and species,they are all great,and for me that it is a daytime experience,in good company,finishing with a nice walk back to the car ,sharing the best bits with a bit of banter,before looking forward to the next trip,whenever that can be fitted in to busy modern schedules and lifestyles.
 
Chris Ponsford said:
Simples,ban night fishing,bivvies and bed chairs and vast majority of these big kippers would never get caught this way.
Most of the Big Fish are targeted 24/7 ,are known to be in residence in a particular swim,are fed heavily to fatten them up,and are relentlessly pursued till they make the fatal error and are then proudly held as a trophy shot.

What makes me chuckle ,is that the captors then make up some glorious tale about how it was a chance encounter,and how they put themselves out,or had a primeval urge to return ,because they heard dogs barking on a full moon when nearly back to there car after climbing Everest .

These captures are not by accident,they are the result of relentless campaigns ,in all weathers,and the fish are fattened like geese for foi gras.
I am not condemning them,or their dedication,but eventually the fish will slip up ,and the result achieved.

Bigger rivers are still an unknown quantity,Tidal Trent,Lwr Severn,etc,and bivvie tactics work well and are often needed as weather and exposure can be a cruel mistress,and bites at a premium.

Get rid of things like Drennan Cups and other similar competitions and take the money away,and the then the circuit anglers who know where all the big fish reside would not be so driven to get that mugshot and weekly award.
Angling is a personal journey,with many phases,but I do find many aspects very distasteful ,frankly,and far to much emphasis is placed on size of fish or species.

Above all enjoy it,whatever the size and species,they are all great,and for me that it is a daytime experience,in good company,finishing with a nice walk back to the car ,sharing the best bits with a bit of banter,before looking forward to the next trip,whenever that can be fitted in to busy modern schedules and lifestyles.
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Well said that man........(Twice winner of the Midland Specimen Angler of the Year):D:D
 
Chris Ponsford said:
Simples,ban night fishing,bivvies and bed chairs and vast majority of these big kippers would never get caught this way.
Most of the Big Fish are targeted 24/7 ,are known to be in residence in a particular swim,are fed heavily to fatten them up,and are relentlessly pursued till they make the fatal error and are then proudly held as a trophy shot.

What makes me chuckle ,is that the captors then make up some glorious tale about how it was a chance encounter,and how they put themselves out,or had a primeval urge to return ,because they heard dogs barking on a full moon when nearly back to there car after climbing Everest .

These captures are not by accident,they are the result of relentless campaigns ,in all weathers,and the fish are fattened like geese for foi gras.
I am not condemning them,or their dedication,but eventually the fish will slip up ,and the result achieved.

Bigger rivers are still an unknown quantity,Tidal Trent,Lwr Severn,etc,and bivvie tactics work well and are often needed as weather and exposure can be a cruel mistress,and bites at a premium.

Get rid of things like Drennan Cups and other similar competitions and take the money away,and the then the circuit anglers who know where all the big fish reside would not be so driven to get that mugshot and weekly award.
Angling is a personal journey,with many phases,but I do find many aspects very distasteful ,frankly,and far to much emphasis is placed on size of fish or species.

Above all enjoy it,whatever the size and species,they are all great,and for me that it is a daytime experience,in good company,finishing with a nice walk back to the car ,sharing the best bits with a bit of banter,before looking forward to the next trip,whenever that can be fitted in to busy modern schedules and lifestyles.
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I agree with Adrian, well said.
 
Plus, never, ever, become a member of or engage with gossiping groups, or believe the poison that they pour into people's ears about others for their own discreet reasons - be your own man, think first, think long and hard, then form your own opinions, and only share those opinions when you absolutely have to. This way, we cut out the canker - not what a man does, has done and actually is, but what others can get away with saying about him -that has dogged Angling for the past couple of decades. This not solely about myself, I assure you: I know / knew some exceptional anglers (both coarse and game) and exceptional, quality people who have given up on Angling completely (or given up public participation in the pastime) in recent years, for reasons like my own: "If I need to compete, I can do it on a squash court; if I need b1tching, back-biting, character assassination and aggro, I can get it in spades at work.".
 
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