Sorry Gwyn, but i beg to differ. I consider myself as a guest to the Wye, as i only manage 2 or 3 trips a year. But i WOULD NEVER, put my trips before the fish's welfare, if that means, i can't fish for one reason or another on arrival, such as this extreme weather, then so be it. Not ALL guests are i must fish at all costs. Even though, for me, its a very long round trip. I will always take the advice of people with more knowledge/experience, than myself, from good people, just like yourself. Thats why i love this forum so much. You can learn so much more than you can from one of the weekly/monthly rag mags on sale in the newsagents. With famous name sponsored anglers ( cough ), fishing no matter what, ( cough ) to get a fish ( cough ) just to get their next 6 months of free bait. Just cos were guests, doesn't mean we don't care. So please, don't tar us all with the same brush.