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15 foot trotting rod

Nick Coulthurst said:
Anyone used the Tricast XRS 2K4 Power Carp Match rod 14ft for trotting for barbel ? Given its title, I don't doubt it has the power, but how heavy is it ? Too heavy for 5 hours of trotting ?
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IIRC, it's an older, discontinued, rod that I've never seen. I suspect that the closest current equivalent is the Trilogy XS 14'. If it's anywhere near similar, I doubt that you'd have any issues holding it for five hours. In my experience, there's barely a rod out there, up to 14', that an average adult couldn't manage, though some will undoubtedly be less fatiguing and nicer to use. Once rods get to 15'+ is when weight/balance really starts to be an issue.

Jon Frisby said:
Tricast are very light. What's the line rating. Should give a good indicator on power etc.
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Jon,
for the moment, I have three of the John Allerton Tri-Casts. They don't compare favourably to either the Browning Spheres or the Drennan Acolytes when it comes to weight and balance. Given John Allerton's history and pedigree, I know this goes against perceptions, but I've actually found the Allertons to be rather too powerful for my usual river fishing. I actually wonder whether they may be pretty handy as a barbel float rod. It's probably about time I brought a selection down for you to have a play with.
 
I bought a 15’ technium specimen match from eBay. Does anyone know the difference between the DF and the non-DF models?
 
Dave Quinn said:
I bought a 15’ technium specimen match from eBay. Does anyone know the difference between the DF and the non-DF models?
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DF stands for Diaflash. Diaflash is a crossed tape pattern visible on the blank. The later Technium match didn't wear the DF designation and the blank appears to be a high gloss, smooth finish. Based on looks alone, I prefer the DF version, but I've never used the later non-DF rods.
I have the 15' Technium DF Specimen Match. It's one of the horde that really should be culled. I definitely don't need it and the 15' Aerocast.
 
I've been reliably informed the Tricast XRS 2K4 Power Carp Match rod 14ft , weighs 205g, which doesn't seem too bad for a 14ft power float rod, provided it's nicely balanced. Not sure how it stacks up against other 14fters though.

Nick C
 
Chris Jones said:
IIRC, it's an older, discontinued, rod that I've never seen. I suspect that the closest current equivalent is the Trilogy XS 14'. If it's anywhere near similar, I doubt that you'd have any issues holding it for five hours. In my experience, there's barely a rod out there, up to 14', that an average adult couldn't manage, though some will undoubtedly be less fatiguing and nicer to use. Once rods get to 15'+ is when weight/balance really starts to be an issue.



Jon,
for the moment, I have three of the John Allerton Tri-Casts. They don't compare favourably to either the Browning Spheres or the Drennan Acolytes when it comes to weight and balance. Given John Allerton's history and pedigree, I know this goes against perceptions, but I've actually found the Allertons to be rather too powerful for my usual river fishing. I actually wonder whether they may be pretty handy as a barbel float rod. It's probably about time I brought a selection down for you to have a play with.
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We will just have to find out won't we.
 
Wondering if anyone knows anything about the Preston Innovations Super Equis 15ft float rod. It's now being heavily discounted and weighs 202g which seems fairly light. Also, Maver's Signature Pro Classic 15ft float rod at about 170g, although not cheap at about £220. I'm not looking for an out and out barbel float rod, just a well balanced all rounder which will handle the occasional barbel. I would normally buy a second hand Spectron or something similar, but so few come up in 15ft, the season could be over before I find one.

Nick C
 
Nick

I could be wrong but I don’t think there is a 15’ spectron float rod. There is a 13/15 waggler but that’s really a 13’ with a 2’ extension.

Have you considered a 15’ acolyte plus? The 13’ is a joy to use for trotting
 
You need to really think if you need a 15 footer as it's pretty niche imo. I only need one because some of my pegs are 13 or 14ft deep. A 15 is needed. I don't fish top and bottom A lot either, generally dave harrell speci wags. There is some good 13s out there. A few good 14s and it's your guess how many good 15s there are?? Just food for thought.
 
I love long (15'+) rods, I have more than most will see in a lifetime. Unless someone has an issue with Drennan, I'd find it quite bizarre if the Acolyte (Ultra or Plus, depending on the intended quarry) wasn't included in anyone's shortlist for a 15' rod. Though I have found alternatives I prefer in certain situations, I've yet to find anything lighter.
 
I know what you're saying Jon, I have 2 different Normark Avengers in 13ft which I use at the moment, but was thinking a longer rod would be useful on some of the deeper pegs on the Trent. I haven't heard anything but good stuff about the Acolytes Chris, but at £100 less, the Preston Super Equis is tempting given it will only be used a few times a year.
 
Nick Coulthurst said:
Anyone used the Tricast XRS 2K4 Power Carp Match rod 14ft for trotting for barbel ? Given its title, I don't doubt it has the power, but how heavy is it ? Too heavy for 5 hours of trotting ?

Nick C
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Recently bought the 13ft version of this rod. It's rated at 2-8lb line and weighs 210 grams on the kitchen scales. Not fished with it yet but it performs well under vigorous waggling. Gotta be a good sign hasn't it?
 
I own a 15/17ft P I Super Equis rod. Great river rod. Not sure if it would handle a Barbel. But for Dace up to small Chub it's a brilliant tool. The tip is very sensitive. It has a progressive action. When i caught a 5lb Chub last week the lower section is where the strength came in. For a river float rod, i highly recommend it but i don't think they were made for catching in barbel. If Barbel and long rods you would have to look at tele Bolo rods. These are up to 20ft, thick blanks and strong.
 
Had a waggle with a Daiwa powermesh specialist 15ft today. Very nice. Suitable for 3 to 10lb.
99.99 from tackeuk.
 
Jon Frisby said:
Had a waggle with a Daiwa powermesh specialist 15ft today. Very nice. Suitable for 3 to 10lb.
99.99 from tackeuk.
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I appreciate that it's a fair bit cheaper than many comparable rods, but did you not find it a bit thick and heavy? The range of Powermesh float rods is certainly powerful enough for most. The biggest let down for me was the screw up reel seat. I really don't like that configuration in a rod I'll hold all day trotting.
 
Not at all really, I thought it felt well balanced etc. The thickness doesn't bother me, I have a high end daiwa 15ft and it's not a great deal thinner. I used to have an Harrison 15ft gtisu and for a trotting rod it was the worst balanced rod I have ever held. Obs some will disagree with that statement, but I couldn't imagine me being able to hold the Got more that 2 to 3 hours. I also had an hold on the 14dt acolyte plus. Too light for the Trent imo where the average 8 to 9lb and some of those I hooked the other day would see it lacking.
 
Jon Frisby said:
Not at all really, I thought it felt well balanced etc. The thickness doesn't bother me, I have a high end daiwa 15ft and it's not a great deal thinner. I used to have an Harrison 15ft gtisu and for a trotting rod it was the worst balanced rod I have ever held. Obs some will disagree with that statement, but I couldn't imagine me being able to hold the Got more that 2 to 3 hours. I also had an hold on the 14dt acolyte plus. Too light for the Trent imo where the average 8 to 9lb and some of those I hooked the other day would see it lacking.
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I'm guessing that you aren't intending to replace your current rod of choice with the Powermesh though? I'd not necessarily disagree about the Acolyte Plus. I don't believe it's a genuine "power" rod, just an uprated Acolyte Ultra, which is a very light (actioned) rod compared to most modern match rods. However, I do believe that they are a bit more capable than they might appear. I've had some damned good tench and carp on an Acolyte Plus now and I know a few folks that have been catching lots of barbel with them. Wouldn't be my first choice for deliberately targeting big fish on the float.
 
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