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what water temps will barbel still feed

I do know the stretch concerned although have never fished it and was unaware that many of the fish were 'holed up'
I find it quite unbelievable that the controlling club don't act on this.
Surely it would be in the best interests of the fish, the fishery and the long term welfare of the fishing to provide 'safe sanctuaries' for these fish.
In doing so it will encourage the fish to spread out more.
A stretch of the Colne I used to fish many years ago introduced such havens.
 
John McGough said:
I do know the stretch concerned although have never fished it and was unaware that many of the fish were 'holed up'
I find it quite unbelievable that the controlling club don't act on this.
Surely it would be in the best interests of the fish, the fishery and the long term welfare of the fishing to provide 'safe sanctuaries' for these fish.
In doing so it will encourage the fish to spread out more.
A stretch of the Colne I used to fish many years ago introduced such havens.
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You would have thought so John, pursuing Barbel in this manner will only end one way.
 
I can't blame anyone for fishing for them Neil because some are just oblivious to the long term implications.
It's really down to the committee/club to implement some rules rather than expect anglers to apply common sense.
We don't all have much common sense :)
 
John McGough said:
I can't blame anyone for fishing for them Neil because some are just oblivious to the long term implications.
It's really down to the committee/club to implement some rules rather than expect anglers to apply common sense.
We don't all have much common sense :)
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If it's the club I think it is I would have hoped they might have stepped in...we had the same problem with the Teme, the BAA allowed matches on this river, crazy, plus all the guiding it was only going to end one way.

Adams Mill, a prime example.
 
The club closes 4 swims for a few weeks every winter including these swims and either side.In the summer the fish are more distributed and you can catch barbel from most swims easily.No swims are devoid of fish, most are all full with large amounts of chub, carp, roach, dace,perch,gudgeon with the odd barbel.The Barbel have no reason to be in the lower swim its a nothing looking swim with not much depth.There are a few areas of safety that the fish can live in ---like the one the Bath road, Colne club used to have, but they chose these swims.Not everyone fishing the swim catches,fish crudely and you will struggle.The river is a live one with plenty of fish,like the rivers i grew up on.The whole of southern England fishing is in a slump the Colne,Lodden,Kennet etc are shadows of their former selves.
 
Thanks for that info Mark. It's good to know the club are doing something about this. I was surprised to think that this club concerned would choose to ignore such a problem. I hope eventually the fish will spread out more during the winter months and hopefully the committee can manage this by design. Yes the BRPS stretch was the one that came to mind with the old 'suicide' swim roped off. I haven't fished this stretch for many many years and have lost touch with it.
Thanks again for the update and sorry to stroll away from the original thread regarding water temps
 
Mark Swaby said:
The club closes 4 swims for a few weeks every winter including these swims and either side.In the summer the fish are more distributed and you can catch barbel from most swims easily.No swims are devoid of fish, most are all full with large amounts of chub, carp, roach, dace,perch,gudgeon with the odd barbel.The Barbel have no reason to be in the lower swim its a nothing looking swim with not much depth.There are a few areas of safety that the fish can live in ---like the one the Bath road, Colne club used to have, but they chose these swims.Not everyone fishing the swim catches,fish crudely and you will struggle.The river is a live one with plenty of fish,like the rivers i grew up on.The whole of southern England fishing is in a slump the Colne,Lodden,Kennet etc are shadows of their former selves.
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You would walk past this swim and fish some of the others first if you didn't know better

I've only been a member for 3 or 4 years but I've done 2 work parties on the stretch and I get the impression they think very hard about how it can be best looked after.

There's an article by Keith Speer, who was a member, somewhere on the internet that iexplains what the club did to try and create and maintain the perfect environment for fish of all species to thrive.
 
Dave Quinn said:
You would walk past this swim and fish some of the others first if you didn't know better

I've only been a member for 3 or 4 years but I've done 2 work parties on the stretch and I get the impression they think very hard about how it can be best looked after.

There's an article by Keith Speer, who was a member, somewhere on the internet that iexplains what the club did to try and create and maintain the perfect environment for fish of all species to thrive.
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Yes I saw that, it was on 'Tight Lines' Keith Arthur and Keith Speer did a piece there a few years back, the environment was created with the ease of catching, and a great understanding of the requirements.
Perhaps though they stay put all year round because of the anglers feed that goes in?
 
Keep looking in on this one aseems it can be very contentious. Even when it comes to taking the temperature, obviously the surface is more ambient to air temperature, mid water is generally a good guide. The bottom is typically colder or warmer than the middle. Now testing the temp on a small river 3 foot deep no problem apparently. Measure that to say the Trent 14 foot deep and 65yds wide, now top that off with 5 foot of tide from a frosty morning. You might as well throw the thermometer in the bin...
 
Neil Smart said:
Yes I saw that, it was on 'Tight Lines' Keith Arthur and Keith Speer did a piece there a few years back, the environment was created with the ease of catching, and a great understanding of the requirements.
Perhaps though they stay put all year round because of the anglers feed that goes in?
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You'll almost always find people fishing in the swims close to those 2 so some bait does go in but there are no or very few barbel in them. The competition must be fierce for food, they could move to almost identical-looking swims ten yards away and get a hassle free feed most days but they choose not to
 
Perhaps they are not bothered by a bit of hassle and prefer to stay in the permanently open tuck shop . Barbel are not the brightest of fish but they know when they are on to a good thing :D
 
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