Trotting?

[David Turton]

When trotting for barbel with meat would you go direct hook to meet or still use a hair rig for it?
This is to trot without a float
Thanks

 

[Jon Frisby]

If snaggy hide hook, of not hair rig.

 

[Barry Peck]

I bury the hook in the meat personally. A bare hook will catch every item of detritus on the bottom of the river bed .

 

[Ben Marr]

Hook in meat for me as well.

 

[John Wilkins]

When trotting for barbel with meat would you go direct hook to meet or still use a hair rig for it?
This is to trot without a float
Thanks

You mean rolling not trotting, push a baiting needle through the meat, grabbing the hook bend and pull it through, twist the hook, put a bit of grass stalk under the bend and pull it back in...job done !!

 

[Richard Isaacs]

You don’t need a hair for trotting meat. Your striking when the float dips and it’s soft enough to easily pull through.

 

[John Wilkins]

You don’t need a hair for trotting meat. Your striking when the float dips and it’s soft enough to easily pull through.

Corrrrect !! You might need a bit of grass stalk under the bend though.

 

[Terry Harman]

You don’t need a hair for trotting meat. Your striking when the float dips and it’s soft enough to easily pull through.

i think he means rolling meat rich he said trotting without a float. same thing applies though

 

[Terry Simner]

BTW .... unless I'm being lazy, to re-bait when rolling meat, or using ledgered big meat, I disconnect my hooklink and pass it loop* first through my bait and slide the meat down the line, so the hook enters the meat eye first. It stays on much longer that way.
*I used to connect my meat-rolling hooklinks via a straightforward figure 8 loop, but now use a very small teardrop ring (to cut down on/cut out potential line crimping)
I know I'm 'preaching' mostly to 'the converted' here on BFW

 

[John Wilkins]

BTW .... unless I'm being lazy, to re-bait when rolling meat, or using ledgered big meat, I disconnect my hooklink and pass it loop* first through my bait and slide the meat down the line, so the hook enters the meat eye first. It stays on much longer that way.
*I used to connect my meat-rolling hooklinks via a straightforward figure 8 loop, but now use a very small teardrop ring (to cut down on/cut out potential line crimping)
I know I'm 'preaching' mostly to 'the converted' here on BFW

Yeah, no need to disconnect me ole son, just pull your hook through with the needle and give it a quarter turn with a bit of stalk under the bend and pull it back in....doddle.

 

[Terry Simner]

Yeah, no need to disconnect me ole son, just pull your hook through with the needle and give it a quarter turn with a bit of stalk under the bend and pull it back in....doddle.

.....but with wide gape leaded hooks (we're talking about rolling meat here), pulling a big hook, bend-first, through the meat can split it

 

[John Wilkins]

.....but with wide gape leaded hooks (we're talking about rolling meat here), pulling a big hook, bend-first, through the meat can split it

This is getting a bit too technical for me I reckon, I just use a decent quality 10 or 8 , don't know much about the leaded business.

 

[Richard Isaacs]

Yeah, no need to disconnect me ole son, just pull your hook through with the needle and give it a quarter turn with a bit of stalk under the bend and pull it back in....doddle.

Yeah that’s all I do. It will only split if the hooks too big. Stays on just fine with a 1/4 turn and pulled back.