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Too strong?

i used to test all my baits on the kids goldfish and note the fishes reactions
done this with boiled bait, steamed bait, paste using fish oils, liquidised fish,
essential oils, amino acids, and lots of boily flavours, amazing how the fish react! especially at using different flavour levels, alas the poor beggars keeled over during an amino test:eek: the boys screaming mum dads murdered the fish:eek:
 
Unlike some people on here I over flavor my meat got talking Lawrence Breakspear about the same subject and he was on about how much he over flavors his meat
 
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Thanks for all the replies, some useful flavours mentioned to use! I asked the question in the first place as one day i added garlic in oil to some boilies. Result was so overpowering i think it kept the rats, vampires and other local wildlife away.. and the fish

I will have a play in the kitchen and see what i can come up with..

Does anyone think that a stronger flavour will be better in flooded conditions?

Thanks all again for your answers, Alot more than i thought i would get and alot more for me to try..... Just hope I can get on the river to try as many as i can!
 
During flood conditions would be one of the very best times to use it. The fish will be feeding by scent in the coloured water as opposed to sight.
 
John Walker said:
i used to test all my baits on the kids goldfish and note the fishes reactions
done this with boiled bait, steamed bait, paste using fish oils, liquidised fish,
essential oils, amino acids, and lots of boily flavours, amazing how the fish react! especially at using different flavour levels, alas the poor beggars keeled over during an amino test:eek: the boys screaming mum dads murdered the fish:eek:
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Nice touch there Jon - definitely quote of the week. Enjoyable thread.

Cheers, Jon
 
Ok, I been busy in the kitchen, but had no bank time! So a few different flavours in the freezer that I cant wait to use.

But on another note, How many times do you think you can re-freeze baits?

Thanks all, This did make a good thread to read
 
Ramon San Juan said:
Ok, I been busy in the kitchen, but had no bank time! So a few different flavours in the freezer that I cant wait to use.

But on another note, How many times do you think you can re-freeze baits?

Thanks all, This did make a good thread to read
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Hi Ramon,

A thorny old problem this, that has been kicked around in carping circles for as long as I can remember.

The purists (who see only blacks or whites...no greys :D) would say that boilies should be treated as you would food for human consumption...freeze once only!

However, the more practical souls (no doubt with one eye on the cost of boilies) would have it that carp are not human...and having seen some of the rancid, long dead crud that fish will eat naturally (and get away with it) I can't say they are wrong.

Fishing in still waters means that if you did anything that killed fish, it would soon become obvious. If everything in a carp lake that ate boilies that had been frozen a couple of times were to up and die, then the results would soon be noticed!

I assume that barbel are no different to carp in that they can get away with eating re-frozen stuff.

So...common sense would seem to say that if the bait still smells OK...then it probably is :D

Cheers, Dave.
 
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David, I have heard these storys! Main one that sticks out, man had some sort of cat food meat that he left in his bag. Next time he went fishing it was rank as hell and stank, so he threw it in the margins and fished as normal. Couple of hours later the biggest carp seen head down on said meat...... Munching away!


(cannot remember where i read this..)
 
ramon, i have herd ot this story as mentioned by dave, but i did read an article by archie maddocks, that you can over flavour, meaning you can make it to strong this could all so put fish off, just like bad eggs to us, ?????
 
Fred Taylor used to tell a story about a carp lake he regularly fished on his many trips to Canada. Seems there were huge drums of maize strategically placed around the margins, which were topped up from time to time, but never emptied. The result was maize in a liquor so rancid it made you vomit...and took days to get off your hands, no matter how often you washed them.

The rule was that every time you passed a drum, you reached in and grabbed a handful and threw it in the lake. There apparently was no need to try any other bait, because the carp were so hooked on this stuff it would be a waste of time.

Having said all that, I would not recommend using bait that was obviously rotten...decay in different substances produces different toxins. What I am saying is...if a boilie still smells pretty much the way it did the day it was made...then it is almost certainly OK. There have been too many re-frozen boilies used over the years with no ill effects, using that simple criteria, for it not to be so.

Cheers, Dave.
 
Many years ago I remember reading an article in one of the fishing papers .
A well known match fisherman admited he used to put a laxative designed for Aquarium fish in is ground bait and the theory was that the quicker the bait went through the fish .The more they would eat and in turn he would catch more and win matches .That was his theory . If you can buy laxatives for aquarium fish . Which would means they are not getting a balanced diet . If you are fish swimming around in aquarium you can only eat what is fed to you in a aquarium .
So can a fish that swims in a river or a lake know the difference between what is good or bad and eat a balanced diet .Would it know the difference between junk food :( and good food :)
We all know from a human point of view we are told not to refreeze food that has been thawed .
I can only assume rightly or wrongly that if we are feeding fish with food that was bad for their health . That they would soon stop eating it .
Or am I wrong to assume they are that intelligent .
After all us humans are intelligent . Yet we eat food that we know that is not good for us and yet we continue to eat it . So are fish any different .
 
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