Chris , if you can find one a Drennen Matchpro Ultralite Waggler is sublime for grayling , imho .I tend to agree. However, people still talk about them as if they are. I sold mine, partly because of the screw up reel seat and partly due to them being unsuited to the bulk of my fishing (grayling in fast, shallow, water). I found them to be better suited to the deeper steady water of the Trent, even for smaller fish.