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Small, low stock rivers and big barbel

I fished a beautiful old estate lake near Dunmow. Passing just one angler who said he had been there for 4 days without a bite. When the bailiff came to take the money, I recounted this and he repleid." Oh thats nothing, some people fish her 25 times before they get a bite let alone a fish"
No, I have not been back.. Very beautiful place though!

I did about 3 weeks on the lea valley pits one spring for no tench, one eel just under 4lbs and that was my only bite. I was definately out of my depth but beautiful places to be. I’d back myself to do a bit better if I went back.

I’ve also done 15 nights on an estate lake for no carp, although did have some 6lb tench.

Then about 30 Thames sessions for nothing except bream.

Best not question it all too much or I’d go mad, again 🤪
 
Have to say I would also echo this. Best barbel book I've ever read. Tony used John Baker's Supermilk with Ala Salar and also caught some huge bonus chub. I would start to trickle the bait in as soon as you can. A few boilies in each likely looking spot and then cut it back to one or two spots as the start of the season approaches. Moderation is the key!
He fished a very simple rig. A lead on a clip to a 8 inch length of Drennan Dacron to a size 6 Drennan Continental Boilie tied on with a knotless knot.
Also my favourite/best barbel book I've read. Definitely recommend it if anyone hasn't read it.
 
If you can see the river bed, be prepared to spend more time walking and fish spotting rather than actually fishing. Introduce small amounts of bait to see how fish react, or to try and draw them out of nearby cover.

Between now and June 16th is the ideal time to do this and if club rules allow access/baiting during the closed season. I’m not talking prebaiting, more reaction baiting as I cant get to the river regularly enough for prebaiting.

I’ll be back on the Upper Severn in Wales, taking this approach from next weekend. In the upper reaches it is a low stock Barbel river.

Last spring I was really surprised to see Barbel sat in the open over shallow gravel areas with zero cover including no ranunculus weed. On one occasion a female Otter with 2 young went over the area where the Barbel like to sit and several minutes later when I walked upstream the Barbel were still in position!

Obviously every river/Barbel population can behave differently. Personally I cant wait to get back with the polaroids and a bag of bait.

An angler I know who historically does/did as well as anyone targeting big Barbel on the Upper Trent and Dove, spent the whole of the coarse close season out with his fly rod on these lengths of river. Through both wading and exploring the river with his fly rod, come June 16th he knew exactly where the Barbel would be residing.
 
I have had some really good fish from the Colne over the last few months. To be honest I fish a lot but only for 3 hours either morning or afternoon just into dark. On most sections of the Colne like most southern rivers there are few silvers to feed on hemp. The Cormorant have decimated them but a bed of hemp cannot hurt if you are using caster or maggot in the right area and are sitting it out. I like to trickle a good quality bait into a few swims days before fishing and often catch first cast, morning or evening, a blank means the area is usually barren. To me its all about the fish expecting a regular feed in a good area and not spooking them. I tend to rove about over prebaited spots with one rod. If I think a swim merits the 3 hours though I will fish two rods one with a back lead the other held and touch ledgered. I nearly always lower tackle into the swim rather than cast. Back in November I fished a swim that produced a Barbel around 8am every morning I fished it. No point arriving at 6am anymore so I started arriving at 0730. The swim was full of Barbel so I took advantage catching a fish and then moving on further up the section. I suspect the Otter population or pressure move the fish about a lot. After 7 Barbel in 7 morning sessions it went dead so I switched to the afternoon. The next two afternoons produced big doubles first cast then the swim went dead again, the fish had moved on. Whilst fishing this section I drive past another section our club looks after so had been trickling bait into swims there. First two visits produced 3 Chub and a 12lb Barbel then 3 Otters showed up and so did the blanks. Time to move on again to a section I used to look after. Its became a very hard section for Barbel so in Winter I target Chub. First session produced two Chub a 5lb14 and a 7lb1 the next 3 sessions were blanks. I moved areas again after baiting and first 2 casts produced a big chub and a Barbel just under 16lb on the chub gear, I was home for tea within 2 hours. The next evening in the same swim fully expecting a bite I had a blank hour then another Otter swam through the swim, time to move again. I would say fish smaller baits during the day, larger after dark. Prebait , prebait and prebait and always keep your options open so you are ready for a move. These low stock sections draw few anglers and you can take advantage by drawing them to you rather than running around miles from any fish. I use a 1 egg mix in Winter so not much bait spread over 3 swims. Often swims heavily night fished by others are often worth a try during the day because the fish are more likely to feed freely if not spooked Try to find a few favourite reliable swims that you can always get a bite from--any type of bite, Chub, Barbel, Bream or Carp. I found a swim full of big Chub on one section so after 21/2 hours of blank Barbel fishing upstream a couple of casts usually get me a couple to put a positive experience on the session. Too many blanks tend to wear on me.
 
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I have had some really good fish from the Colne over the last few months. To be honest I fish a lot but only for 3 hours either morning or afternoon just into dark. On most sections of the Colne like most southern rivers there are few silvers to feed on hemp. The Cormorant have decimated them but a bed of hemp cannot hurt if you are using caster or maggot in the right area and are sitting it out. I like to trickle a good quality bait into a few swims days before fishing and often catch first cast, morning or evening, a blank means the area is usually barren. To me its all about the fish expecting a regular feed in a good area and not spooking them. I tend to rove about over prebaited spots with one rod. If I think a swim merits the 3 hours though I will fish two rods one with a back lead the other held and touch ledgered. I nearly always lower tackle into the swim rather than cast. Back in November I fished a swim that produced a Barbel around 8am every morning I fished it. No point arriving at 6am anymore so I started arriving at 0730. The swim was full of Barbel so I took advantage catching a fish and then moving on further up the section. I suspect the Otter population or pressure move the fish about a lot. After 7 Barbel in 7 morning sessions it went dead so I switched to the afternoon. The next two afternoons produced big doubles first cast then the swim went dead again, the fish had moved on. Whilst fishing this section I drive past another section our club looks after so had been trickling bait into swims there. First two visits produced 3 Chub and a 12lb Barbel then 3 Otters showed up and so did the blanks. Time to move on again to a section I used to look after. Its became a very hard section for Barbel so in Winter I target Chub. First session produced two Chub a 5lb14 and a 7lb1 the next 3 sessions were blanks. I moved areas again after baiting and first 2 casts produced a big chub and a Barbel just under 16lb on the chub gear, I was home for tea within 2 hours. The next evening in the same swim fully expecting a bite I had a blank hour then another Otter swam through the swim, time to move again. I would say fish smaller baits during the day, larger after dark. Prebait , prebait and prebait and always keep your options open so you are ready for a move. I use a 1 egg mix in Winter so not much bait spread over 3 swims. Try to find a few favourite reliable swims that you can always get a bite from--any type of bite, Chub, Barbel, Bream or Carp. I found a swim full of big Chub on one section so after 21/2 hours of blank Barbel fishing upstream a couple of casts usually get me a couple to put a positive experience on the session. Too many blanks tend to wear on me.
Very interesting post; many thanks.
 
I have had some really good fish from the Colne over the last few months. To be honest I fish a lot but only for 3 hours either morning or afternoon just into dark. On most sections of the Colne like most southern rivers there are few silvers to feed on hemp. The Cormorant have decimated them but a bed of hemp cannot hurt if you are using caster or maggot in the right area and are sitting it out. I like to trickle a good quality bait into a few swims days before fishing and often catch first cast, morning or evening, a blank means the area is usually barren. To me its all about the fish expecting a regular feed in a good area and not spooking them. I tend to rove about over prebaited spots with one rod. If I think a swim merits the 3 hours though I will fish two rods one with a back lead the other held and touch ledgered. I nearly always lower tackle into the swim rather than cast. Back in November I fished a swim that produced a Barbel around 8am every morning I fished it. No point arriving at 6am anymore so I started arriving at 0730. The swim was full of Barbel so I took advantage catching a fish and then moving on further up the section. I suspect the Otter population or pressure move the fish about a lot. After 7 Barbel in 7 morning sessions it went dead so I switched to the afternoon. The next two afternoons produced big doubles first cast then the swim went dead again, the fish had moved on. Whilst fishing this section I drive past another section our club looks after so had been trickling bait into swims there. First two visits produced 3 Chub and a 12lb Barbel then 3 Otters showed up and so did the blanks. Time to move on again to a section I used to look after. Its became a very hard section for Barbel so in Winter I target Chub. First session produced two Chub a 5lb14 and a 7lb1 the next 3 sessions were blanks. I moved areas again after baiting and first 2 casts produced a big chub and a Barbel just under 16lb on the chub gear, I was home for tea within 2 hours. The next evening in the same swim fully expecting a bite I had a blank hour then another Otter swam through the swim, time to move again. I would say fish smaller baits during the day, larger after dark. Prebait , prebait and prebait and always keep your options open so you are ready for a move. These low stock sections draw few anglers and you can take advantage by drawing them to you rather than running around miles from any fish. I use a 1 egg mix in Winter so not much bait spread over 3 swims. Often swims heavily night fished by others are often worth a try during the day because the fish are more likely to feed freely if not spooked Try to find a few favourite reliable swims that you can always get a bite from--any type of bite, Chub, Barbel, Bream or Carp. I found a swim full of big Chub on one section so after 21/2 hours of blank Barbel fishing upstream a couple of casts usually get me a couple to put a positive experience on the session. Too many blanks tend to wear on me.

That was really interesting, thank you.

Loads of good input all round and I’m sure some of it will put a few fish on the bank for me this season.
 
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