• You need to be a registered member of Barbel Fishing World to post on these forums. Some of the forums are hidden from non-members. Please refer to the instructions on the ‘Register’ page for details of how to join the new incarnation of BFW...

Severn Trent Fail

Living in the suburbs of Birmingham I am astonished how resilient some of the fish are in some of the streams I walk along. They appear to be able to survive where there is no visible sign of plant or weed growth in the river!
I can only imagine how they would thrive in clean water.
Thanks to Fergal👍
G.T.
 
That is a hard watch, especially so local to me. Of course it is not a priority to clean up our rivers by successive Governments but absolutely should.
How ironic that the jewel in the crown Shad scheme and viewing window should be here at Diglis.
"Roll up" and take the kids to see a dying river in action.
I suffered a very serious life threatening illness in 2020 after fishing just downstream in Severn Stoke I had life changing surgery. The dropping river that day reeked of sewage, but we my fellow anglers are fooled into supporting this criminal lot buying a lìcence which further enables their actions.
Enough is enough!
 
Last edited:
Neil Smart said:
That is a hard watch, especially so local to me. Of course it is not a priority to clean up our rivers by successive Governments but absolutely should.
How ironic that the jewel in the crown Shad scheme and viewing window should be here at Diglis.
"Roll up" and take the kids to see a dying river in action.
I suffered a very serious life threatening illness in 2020 after fishing just downstream in Severn Stoke I had life changing surgery. The dropping river that day reeked of sewage, but we my fellow anglers are fooled into supporting this criminal lot buying a lìcence which further enables their actions.
Enough is enough!
Click to expand...
Difficult to argue against you Neil. At the risk of being called names, I seriously question the adequacy of our water treatment plants to deal with the levels of current throughput compared to their design capacity. Hopefully there are those on this site with knowledge on the subject. In the days when I had a proper job, I needed to understand the problem, and then work back to find the likely cause, before then looking for a remedy. I have read that the amount of effluent treated in the London area suggests a population some 25% higher than the published figures. This maybe a way of excusing the inadequacy of the system or the operators. Equally it may mean the system is overused in which case before more housing, more treatment plants should be built. Does anyone have the figures to hand?
 
Colin Dapp said:
Dave, I understood that it was sunday 3 november. Can you clarify?
Click to expand...
is anyone suggesting a meeting of BFW contingent who live within reach?. Its a serious subject of course and short notice to organize a beano but I am sure a sister Anna would be found. Meeting point to be suggested. Anyone interested?
 
Good to see Fergal getting the message out there loud and clear. But I’ve got to clear my cookies now I’ve watched that, don’t want to spend the next six months with thumb nails and suggestions from LBC and Mr O’Briens rage bait.
 
Am i right in thinking that 80% of our water companies are owned by foreign investment companies and the profits go to the shareholders of these companies.T he companies are aware of the fines they receive for discharging sewage into the rivers but its cheaper to pay than rectify the problem, and our government want to take back theses companies and put back into the public domain.(Correct me if i,m wrong). So what would happen if the government decided to increase the fine to theses companies by say 300% on the first instance to 500% for a second offence. Which hits there profits and the shareholders as well, which makes it untenable to make profit whilst they carry on polluting our rivers. If needed an emergency bill could ( or should) be passed to make the fines legal and deter the sad demise of our rivers by theses companies.
i have made it pretty straightforward and there will no doubt be massive complications with the points i raised but thats how i see the being circumstances changed. Your views please
 
Alec Hague said:
Difficult to argue against you Neil. At the risk of being called names, I seriously question the adequacy of our water treatment plants to deal with the levels of current throughput compared to their design capacity. Hopefully there are those on this site with knowledge on the subject. In the days when I had a proper job, I needed to understand the problem, and then work back to find the likely cause, before then looking for a remedy. I have read that the amount of effluent treated in the London area suggests a population some 25% higher than the published figures. This maybe a way of excusing the inadequacy of the system or the operators. Equally it may mean the system is overused in which case before more housing, more treatment plants should be built. Does anyone have the figures to hand?
Click to expand...
All what you say here is true. The under investment by our water companies is criminal, whilst all the time counting the extra £'s from the hundreds of thousands of new build's, water charges. Councils are also burying their heads in the sand.
 
When water and sewage treatment was privatised in 1989 and sold off to be run by commercial companies, that was the day when this nation created a huge problem for itself ,the consequences of this act of greed and stupidity are highlighted in this disturbing video . The infrastructure is clearly not fit for purpose , the regulator is not fit for purpose , the companies that run these services are not fit for purpose , that purpose being to provide clean water and to dispose of waste in a responsible way that does not damage the environment . The huge irony of this literal s**t show is that the tax / bill payers are now having to pay more to bail these companies out so that they can carry on polluting and destroying the environment . Solution ? Who knows , probably too late to re nationalise and little political will to do so . Increase the sanctions on the companies and shareholders to try and force them to improve matters ,?Well that hasn't worked so far , it is a truly tragic situation and hugely depressing
 
Chris Guy said:
All what you say here is true. The under investment by our water companies is criminal, whilst all the time counting the extra £'s from the hundreds of thousands of new build's, water charges. Councils are also burying their heads in the sand.
Click to expand...
Much as I don’t like to admit it; part of the historic under-investment by the water companies was because the government would NOT let them spend the money.

Every 3 years the water companies put forward their planned investment programme(s) and the water regulator then decided what work could/could not be undertaken. The system was designed to keep water prices down, rather than protect the environment !!

PS I’m hoping to go to the March on Sunday.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top