Rod for grayling

[Richard Isaacs]

Thanks Richard, yeah great rods, me too.... I just need the R type now...

If I see a Response “R” for sale I’ll tip you off

 

[Jon Frisby]

If I see a Response “R” for sale I’ll tip you off

Thank you, all being well I have one in then pipeline, just got to pick it up..

 

[Huanzhou Zhu]

It looks like the 13ft waggler rod has the same casting weight. It's also described as more of an all round float rod, so possibly pretty similar.

Readily available there seems to be only be the preston or acolyte that's been suggested so far. There's a couple of new Daiwas I think would work well. I bought and returned the tournament-s in 13ft as the tip section bent to the left and the eyes were noticeably out of alignment .

The quality of those made in the UK Daiwa rods is terrible. As you said, they have bent blanks, unaligned eyes, upside-down reel seats, and all sorts of stupid problems. I am curious to know how these rods passed the QA.

I would say give the acolyte specimen a try. Considering everything, this is the best option we have, IMO.

But if you are lucky to get a high end daiwa rod without any issues and on sale, they are top rods. I have a 15ft tournament rod, the last generation before the s, which is great for trotting; soft tip, stiff mid to butt section, handles small fish reasonably well and has the power if you hook a barbel.

I also have the air z match rod in 13ft. The weight may put most people off, but it actually weighs nothing when you hold it; all the weights are in the butt section, and the first two sections weigh the same as the 13ft acolyte specimen. The action is spot-on for trotting large floats in fast water. But it has a stupidly high price, and I would only buy it if it were at a huge discount.

 

[Richard Isaacs]

The quality of those made in the UK Daiwa rods is terrible. As you said, they have bent blanks, unaligned eyes, upside-down reel seats, and all sorts of stupid problems. I am curious to know how these rods passed the QA.

I would say give the acolyte specimen a try. Considering everything, this is the best option we have, IMO.

But if you are lucky to get a high end daiwa rod without any issues and on sale, they are top rods. I have a 15ft tournament rod, the last generation before the s, which is great for trotting; soft tip, stiff mid to butt section, handles small fish reasonably well and has the power if you hook a barbel.

I also have the air z match rod in 13ft. The weight may put most people off, but it actually weighs nothing when you hold it; all the weights are in the butt section, and the first two sections weigh the same as the 13ft acolyte specimen. The action is spot-on for trotting large floats in fast water. But it has a stupidly high price, and I would only buy it if it were at a huge discount.

I’m a big daiwa rod fan boy but I also agree that the stuff coming out of Scotland nowadays can be built shoddy, more often than it should be.

I had 2 guides on the tip section of my tournament RSPF that were the wrong way round. Instead of getting smaller towards the tip I had a jump
back up a size mid section.

I don’t like folding hook keepers in particular but i especially dislike them when they don’t fold from being filled with epoxy.
V joints are also, always too tight and need rubbing in.
For a £400 uk made rod, you don’t expect anything but perfection
I doubt i will buy a brand new one nowadays
Too much like rolling the dice
Such a shame because wen they are right they are really awesome

 

[Huanzhou Zhu]

I’m a big daiwa rod fan boy but I also agree that the stuff coming out of Scotland nowadays can be built shoddy, more often than it should be.

I had 2 guides on the tip section of my tournament RSPF that were the wrong way round. Instead of getting smaller towards the tip I had a jump
back up a size mid section.

I don’t like folding hook keepers in particular but i especially dislike them when they don’t fold from being filled with epoxy.
V joints are also, always too tight and need rubbing in.
For a £400 uk made rod, you don’t expect anything but perfection
I doubt i will buy a brand new one nowadays
Too much like rolling the dice
Such a shame because wen they are right they are really awesome

I agree, but the tight joint has nothing to do with v joints, it’s just another fault. I know this because I also own Japan made daiwa rods that’s also use v joint technology, the joints are perfect.

 

[Richard Isaacs]

I agree, but the tight joint has nothing to do with v joints, it’s just another fault. I know this because I also own Japan made daiwa rods that’s also use v joint technology, the joints are perfect.

I know it’s a simple case of not grinding the spigot in properly

 

[Huanzhou Zhu]

I know it’s a simple case of not grinding the spigot in properly

Yeah, super annoying. I really like those daiwa rods since they have really nice blanks, but the building quality or QA really put me off. I won’t buy new one again, it’s just like drawing lottery.

 

[Steven Knox]

The quality of those made in the UK Daiwa rods is terrible. As you said, they have bent blanks, unaligned eyes, upside-down reel seats, and all sorts of stupid problems. I am curious to know how these rods passed the QA.

I would say give the acolyte specimen a try. Considering everything, this is the best option we have, IMO.

But if you are lucky to get a high end daiwa rod without any issues and on sale, they are top rods. I have a 15ft tournament rod, the last generation before the s, which is great for trotting; soft tip, stiff mid to butt section, handles small fish reasonably well and has the power if you hook a barbel.

I also have the air z match rod in 13ft. The weight may put most people off, but it actually weighs nothing when you hold it; all the weights are in the butt section, and the first two sections weigh the same as the 13ft acolyte specimen. The action is spot-on for trotting large floats in fast water. But it has a stupidly high price, and I would only buy it if it were at a huge discount.

After sending 2 daiwa rods back due to similar issues, I ended up just buying the acolyte specimen. It should compliment the plus I already have well for when the water is up or I'm fishing rivers known to hold larger fish.

 

[Dave Brooksbank]

After sending 2 daiwa rods back due to similar issues, I ended up just buying the acolyte specimen. It should compliment the plus I already have well for when the water is up or I'm fishing rivers known to hold larger fish.

Great choice
Without having a waggle it was either an Acolyte speccy or Conny pro power float.
I opted for the lighter accy and glad I did.

 

[Alan Rose]

Cadence ? possibly.

I’ve flirted with idea of Cadence rods before, but can never quite bring myself to buy one. I think my reluctance may be something to do with the over exuberance of guys who use them. Call me Mr. Cynical, but they’re surely not that good.

 

[Michael Brindle]

I’ve flirted with idea of Cadence rods before, but can never quite bring myself to buy one. I think my reluctance may be something to do with the over exuberance of guys who use them. Call me Mr. Cynical, but they’re surely not that good.

I have borrowed a couple of their float rods for a weekend, didn't like them much. The RRP of a new longer one is not far off what you will pay for an Acolyte. They might make sense to me second hand perhaps if priced accordingly.