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Another factor regarding the higher choice of breaking strain when electing to use braid is that according to the chart published yearly in the Tackle Box catalogue, the majority of braids seem to break below their stated BS,whereas many brands of mono exceed their stated BS.As an example Berkley Whiplash stated strain 30lb the average was found to be 17.63lb.wheras Gardener GR60 clear mono stated strain 12lb averaged 17.76lb.

Pete.
 
Using any hooklink material with a higher breaking strain than the mainline is in my opinion totally irresponsible and constitutes nothing other than a death rig.
I almost exclusively use braid mainline and nylon hooklinks for floatfishing and ledgering, can't remember the last time I suffered a mainline breakage. For floatfishing I try to get something with a similar diameter to 6lb 'normal' nylon which normally means a braid rated around 18-20lb, for ledgering or spinning I find 30lb Spiderwire good.
I gave up on braid hooklinks long before I started using it for mainline, far too many tangles for my liking and the fish don't seem to mind the mono/flouro.
 
Using any hooklink material with a higher breaking strain than the mainline is in my opinion totally irresponsible and constitutes nothing other than a death rig.
I almost exclusively use braid mainline and nylon hooklinks for floatfishing and ledgering, can't remember the last time I suffered a mainline breakage. For floatfishing I try to get somewith a similar diameter to 6lb 'normal' nylon which normally means a braid rated around 18-20lb, for ledgering or spinning I find 30lb Spiderwire goodthing .
I gave up on braid hooklinks long before I started using it for mainline, far too many tangles for my liking and the fish don't seem to mind the mono/flouro.

Paul, I fully expected that my post might well bring forth a storm of comments like yours, comments that hadn't been thought through...but at the time of writing this, yours is the only one. Ah well. For a start, the post from Peter Robinson immediately previous to yours should have told you most of what you need to know. I carefully used the word 'STATED' breaking strain, because as Peter said, virtually all braids are wildly overrated on the packaging....while the reverse is true for mono. This means that the realities of these rigs are an awful long way from what it says on the tin.

Secondly, 'death rig'? How on earth can you make that knee jerk claim without knowing how the rig is constructed? The suppleness that the braid gives you is generally only required immediately next to the hook, the part the fishes mouth comes into contact with. That being so, the average angler constructs a combi rig, a short length of braid (1" is often enough) connected to a longer length of much stiffer material, most usually fluoro (another material vastly overrated in the breaking strain blurb in the adds and on the packaging). If a break occurs with such a rig, it won't be the main line that goes...unless you have absolutely no idea what you are doing of course.

Nowadays, there are some modern hook link materials available which vastly simplify the tying of a combi rig. I use a braid covered fluoro for a hook link. Once the central fluoro is pushed out and snipped back as required, you have a rather splendid supple length of braid right next to your hook, of a length of your choosing. Again, by doing this you have greatly reduced the STATED breaking strain of the hook length, which will already be a lot less than that claimed. The stiffer section helps to avoid all the casting tangles you complain of, while the short supple end section fools the fish. Simples.

Again, far from being irresponsible as you claim, the accused anglers may be using some form of helicopter rig, meaning that if the mainline snaps, the hook link will simply slide off of the broken end. A chod rig? Same effect, and so on ad infinitum. In short, there are a multitude of ways in which a hook link stronger than the mainline can be safely used, whether those breaking strains are correct as stated....or not.

In my own angling, I also use a lead link which incorporates a safety connector, of which there are many types on the market. If my lead or feeder gets snagged up, that link WILL give, long before the main line is in any danger of snapping. Death rigs? I think not.

Of course I could use a braided mainline like you do, which is immensely thin but strong, and I quote "For float fishing I try to get some with a similar diameter to 6lb 'normal' nylon which normally means a braid rated around 18-20lb, for ledgering or spinning I find 30lb Spiderwire goodthing" . That will mean of course that during the fight, the fishes body may well come into contact with something akin to roughened up cheese wire. No....thinking about it, I think I will give that one a miss.

Whatever.

Cheers, Dave.
 
Don't really want to get into a debate re the pros and cons of braid , death rigs etc . I don't use braid , as it tangles easy , and is , as is evident utterly unpredictable terms of breaking strain . How you can design a rig with a material that is patently unreliable in terms of it's BS and abrasion resistance is beyond me , in effect it's guesswork and not very informed guesswork . The pro's of low memory , and bite sensitivity due to low diameter and no stretch don't , in my opinion win over the fatal flaws of braid either as a mainline or hooklink .
 
Each to their own Mike. In my angling experience I have lost more fish using a mono set up than braid on both main line and hook length, the latter with a coat to stiffen it obviates tangles. I have been occasionally questioned on the bank about my line strength compared with that of general coarse anglers and my reply is that "if I get one on, I'm going to land it". If I catch a fish with another hook in it it's generally a small size attached to mono.
We should fish with what we are content with taking fish safety into account.
 
Absolutely agree Bryce fish welfare should always be paramount . I have always been a mono man though , it just seems more reliable / predictable . Yes if people fish for barbel with low b.s. line whether it be braid or mono then they will lose fish and that's bad for the fish . I always use 10-12 mono and can only recall a handful of occasions when my line has parted solely due to the power of the fish . Like you I fish to catch not to get snapped up and go on about the one that got away :D
 
Got mine from fishing tackle online 150yds of 30lb brown £20

Same here. :)

With braid I find that one almost has to look past the breaking strain anomaly. What's important are the properties of the line, i.e. the lack of stretch and the increased bite detection, together with the increased 'feel' when playing a fish. It's almost a different kind of thinking altogether; not placing so much emphasis on breaking strain and more on choosing a suitable diameter line to counteract the lack of abrasion-resistance. Having said that, pp is pretty good in that department.
 
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