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Penn BAITRUNNER

Adam Wylie

Senior Member
The Shimano 4000 D ,4000 oc , were designed for sea fishing too ,and the ultegra too !
The 4000 size reels certainly are NOT over gunned equipment ,however 2.75 rods are perhaps
A little over the top .
 

Richard Parsons

Senior Member
Fair point, Adam, and I stand corrected. :)
And I guess the Trent looms large in everyone's mindset also - thus the requisite bigger leads and casts.
 

Adam Wylie

Senior Member
Hi Richard, The Trent ,depending where you fish , does require some hefty tackle ,but I do take your point regarding
The size and TC of some of the rods used are appear to be over gunned 👍
 

Simon Archer

Senior Member
I think being overgunned is in every facet of our sport, Carp fishing especially. Match fishing too. I've a friend who has just got back into Carp fishing this year after a ten year break. His previous rods were 3lbs TC, this time around he's bought 3.75lbs TC. He just wants to cast to the moon this time around and then worry about playing fish if he catches one. Reels that hold 300yds of line. It's all about distance for him now.
 

Adam Wylie

Senior Member
I think being overgunned is in every facet of our sport, Carp fishing especially. Match fishing too. I've a friend who has just got back into Carp fishing this year after a ten year break. His previous rods were 3lbs TC, this time around he's bought 3.75lbs TC. He just wants to cast to the moon this time around and then worry about playing fish if he catches one. Reels that hold 300yds of line. It's all about distance for him now.
I agree, carp fishing has gone bonkers 😳 3.75 rods ,50mm butt rings, and more complicated rigs than needed !!
Some of the reels would be good for shark fishing 🤣.Having said that I have got some 2.75 rods for Barbel fishing the Trent,but they are very much a specialist tool for distance and flood fishing, Most of the Time I use my 2.25 or,1.75 , and 1.25 depending on where I am fishing .
 

Richard Isaacs

Senior Member
I think the finesse can still be there to a degree but we’ve educated ourselves over time that these fish go back much happier if they are extracted quicker.
Our gear is stronger, we land more of them much quicker and in most cases, they are kicking to get off before you’ve unhooked them as a result.

That wasn’t the case 20 years ago when I used to land them on medium feeder rods and match reels loaded with 8lb maxima.
Nowadays I’m geared up to stop em dead if I need to.
I think it’s a good thing. Better on the fish.
 

Richard Parsons

Senior Member
That wasn’t the case 20 years ago when I used to land them on medium feeder rods and match reels loaded with 8lb maxima.
Nowadays I’m geared up to stop em dead if I need to.
I think it’s a good thing. Better on the fish.
This is worthy of a whole new thread/conversation, Rich, and probably not one that's in the public domain (as this is). :)
 

Peter Brownbill

Senior Member
I have the penn slammer live liner 460L, awesome reels , don’t use the bait runner only the clutch , only problem I’ve had was I quick dragged them by taking the springs out of the spool caps , hence it wore the spool cap and wouldn’t tighten down , upgraded to carbon washers has helped massively . They are heavy and don’t make any difference in weight in the rods or playing fish on them . With them having no backwind doesn’t bother me .😜
 

Clive Kenyon

Senior Member
I have the Liveliner 760 on my catfish come spod rod. The anti reverse is seen as a possible weakness on these reels as they were designed for saltwater sport fish; sharks, barracuda.............

My other catfish rod has an Okuma Trent on it. In a straight head to head pull with both drags screwed down tight, the centrepin just, only just, lost out. Both were over 7 kilos drag. The 760l is a beast of a reel.
 

Joe Winstanley

Senior Member
I have the Liveliner 760 on my catfish come spod rod. The anti reverse is seen as a possible weakness on these reels as they were designed for saltwater sport fish; sharks, barracuda.............

My other catfish rod has an Okuma Trent on it. In a straight head to head pull with both drags screwed down tight, the centrepin just, only just, lost out. Both were over 7 kilos drag. The 760l is a beast of a reel.
I've heard the Okuma Trent is a wonderful reel, but they seem very hard to come by. I don't claim to any sort of expert with centrepins but the star drag to my mind seems a very useful feature for those legering for barbel and carp.
 

Clive Kenyon

Senior Member
I've heard the Okuma Trent is a wonderful reel, but they seem very hard to come by. I don't claim to any sort of expert with centrepins but the star drag to my mind seems a very useful feature for those legering for barbel and carp.
It is a superb and versatile reel. The updated version, the DRII is very highly sought after in Nth America for steelhead fishing. I have two Trents, one for carp close in and one for catfish on a Marco cane rod. With the drag switched off it will spin for over two minutes. Turn the knurled knob and whatever drag you have set comes into play. So you can Wallis cast the bait out and then put drag on baitrunner or higher settings.

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Joe Winstanley

Senior Member
It is a superb and versatile reel. The updated version, the DRII is very highly sought after in Nth America for steelhead fishing. I have two Trents, one for carp close in and one for catfish on a Marco cane rod. With the drag switched off it will spin for over two minutes. Turn the knurled knob and whatever drag you have set comes into play. So you can Wallis cast the bait out and then put drag on baitrunner or higher settings.

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I would love to get my hands on one, but it seems I might have a better chance of getting a DRII perhaps. Do they only come in red do you know?

Cheers,

Joe
 

Clive Kenyon

Senior Member
Yes, the DRII is red. Check the American and Australian auction sites or dealer for Sirata. That is a Trent in brown that was distributed to those markets.

If Okuma had called the Trent the Stalker and painted it green or camou' it would have flown off the shelves. As it was the model never took off, mainly as a result of negative comments by people who had never seen, let alone used one. It has the smoothest clutch, or brake than any other reel I've handled.
 
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