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Paste

Mike Berridge

Mike Berridge

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Fed up of catching on "pellet" this season so fancy a change next season.

So I am thinking of going to paste.

Whats everyones thoughts?

"Pops" I know you used to swear by it many many many years ago.

"Straight" hooked, "paste mate" or cork ball hair?
 
Mike, for me, I almost always wrap around a boilie made from the same paste, just in case it comes off, is eaten by small fish, crays, etc.........that way you know you still have a bait on.

I have been finding it more successful recently to cast once and leave a bait in place as long as you possibly can, that could be 2 or 3 hours, it is therefore important to have the confidence that you have more than an empty hook or cork ball on the end.

If you are thinking neutral bouyancy then consider making a few pop ups from your paste mix, then wrap them in paste as a hookbait.
 
Mike, i use an enterprise plastic pellet on a short hair and wrap the paste around the pellet, alter the size of the pellet 0to the size of pasteball, you also get an additional advantage of a semi bouyant bait cos the pellets float oh also your guaranteed to have the pellet left on the hair if the paste melts off or gets nibbled off
have fun mate....j.w:)
 
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I make odd shape boilies/dumbells out of the paste and fish the paste round that, since changing from boilies and pellet to paste I have had some really good action and now never fish without it. Its cheap and easy to knock up too!!
 
always wrap mine around a pellet mike
see you can get away with using down to a 6mm pellet and mould
the paste round to whatever size you want, taking into concideration
your hair lengh.
i tend to have a few hooklenghts to hand from hook size to hair size,so bigger the baite the bigger the hair and hook.
i,ve been toying with the fact of moulding it straight around the hook
so will try it soon if we get a chance with this weather
all the best mate
 
Mike,

I have been using paste on throughout the middle trent for the last 5 years & more recently on the tidal.

Principally grind simple halli down to fine dust in the food grinder & add warm water. Its probably best, if ones orgaised to do this at home prior to the session. I always take a small amount of the dry ground powder to tweak the mix when I arrive on the bank. A wet mix is no use to no-one. Its the consistancy that most important.

Originally I used to compact a golf sized paste ball onto size 6 super specialist hook. Consistancy here very important as if its too soft than on a cast to the middle of the middle trent on a 2-3oz lead could 'cheese wire' the bait - lead splashing out & the paste lands 2 foot out in the river. The amount of times this happened when I first started to use this to my dads amusement was amazing.

Conversely, too dry & it will either not bind or makes a ball that will incur miss-takes as the hook does not pull through too well.

The optimum is a soft texture that the hook can pull through easily on the take yet leaks slowly into the water profile to create that trail. Some of my favourite fishing is to bounce on a small lead or roll a paste ball. Very simple & very cheap.

But when fishing two static rods, the problem was after the first knock is the confidence of whether one still has a bait or not. Alot of rod micro management follows which can get quite nackering.

For the last 4 years I have been wrapping the same paste directly onto the hair rigged bait, mostly on single/double ellips or halli (any size really). I use the same pellet again wherever possible. After the retrieve just rewrap the paste. In & out in seconds & complete flavour fecundity again. No real need for a cage feeder nor freebies too.

Whether I wrap around the bait or completely engulf the bait & hook, I have had many an instant takes on both or the old sit down & wait.

Recently bought some Owner size 6 paste hooks from the bfw shop. When the conditions arise I will be able to give them a go. But regardless its paste consistancy all the way - once you've mastered that, then you've the choice of presentation without bait binders.

Not that the Trent fish are that riggy, but I think that on the whole, carp included, the fish are not normally presented with really big single pellet smelling baits so it might lessen suspicion.

Love the stuff, but by the time I get home I stink to high heaven & back.

Cheers, Jon

(once was weelo)
 
Take a tip from the carp boys and get yourself some 8mm cork balls and wrap a small piece of paste around it and you wont go wrong......

Cheers Ian :)
 
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Any tips on keeping paste on when fishing at distance? I can manage a gentle lob into the middle of the Trent but like to fish a couple of places where the fish are on the far bank. To date the paste comes off the hook when i try to cast these distances. I have been considering mixing my paste with oil and placing it into pva, then clipping this to the feeder to get it out, but any other suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Ian, at a corner of my mind i can recently remember a carp program suggesting that the armour type mesh was a good thing and to tie it tight around the paste and squeeze a bit through the mesh concealing the mesh,
looked like it would suit your needs mate...j.w
 
Since the autumn i have wrapped my ground pellet mix around my hook pellets, it seem to work, and can easily cast 45-50yds if required. You know what i mean Jim.
 
I've tried paste, but to be fair I've never had that much luck with it..I suppose it's a confidence thing & I don't think I've given it a fair crack, I usually cave in & stick a boilie or pellet on.
 
as per john walker.i wrap the paste round a plastic bait on the hair.other than that dont cast to the horizon and it should stick on the hook if made right.
albert
 
I always use 1 egg and 1ml of lamprey oil and add the dry mix to it. This gives me a smallish ball which I keep in a sealed food bag. I wrap this round either 2 small elips or a single boilie and I can cast this to the far bank of the trent where I fish. I think the main thing is to never allow it to dry out.

I also purchased some paste of ebay last season, smelt great but I dont know what it was made from because it would stay on the hook for days I reckon. It just wouldn't dissolve. I had a few on it though.
 
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if i had my way i would ban these paste coils.there are far safer ways to rig up with paste .already been stated on this thread.in any case why add more weight to the hook.
albert
 
I agree Albert, I know they're attached to a pointy great hook, but in the event of a break off I'm confident that a hook will shed rather than be ingested. Think there's a risk that the coil could end up in the gut.

Just don't like them I guess.

I personally use a very small pop up boilie if only fishing paste; but wrap around the hookbait if it's added for attraction.

If you want an enduring paste and are mixing from boilie base mix, omit the egg yolk for a stiffer result that breaks down more slowly. As prinkling of cornflour increases break down time (as the oils are absorbed), ground coconut or almond makes the paste 'active' (small pieces will break off over time). The fact that coconut and almond don't appear to be enormous barbel catchers should be taken into consideration, works for carp though.
 
Fair point, never see the previouse discusion on these. I only used them a couple of times and now looking at what has been mentioned would not use them again.
I prefer to wrap it round a boilie or dumbell anyway.
Dont use paste coils!!:eek:

Andy.
 
I have tried the paste coils along time ago but found the cork ball the best way. I do fish a venue that does get fished alot.Wrapping the paste around a pellet or boilie seems to be used by everyone so doing something different does make difference.
Even popping the paste just off bottom with the cork ball can do the bizz when times are hard, i guess i just like to experiment :eek:;)

Cheers Ian :)
 
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