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Otter park

Mark Harrop

Senior Member
otters on there way to cheshire.
A short while ago, Northwich Angling Association recieved a document out lining plans to build an Otter park on the river weaver between Northwich and Winsford. With so many good waters connected by streams to the Weaver, some just a few 100yds long or so, its not hard to guess where the Otters will go when times are hard. The potential threat to the Weaver itself and to waters close to it like Top Flash, New Pool, Gale Green, Petty Pool, National Pit, Newbridge and the "Floods". Canals like the Shropshire Union and Trent and Mersey will also act like motorways for them as well as providing easy pickings in such shallow water. Otters have a territory radius of up to 25 miles and will happily cross miles of land to get to where they wish to go, which puts many other of our finest long established waters at risk.
If you want to help and do your bit for Cheshire and the future of your fishing, please read below and get writing it only has to be a few sentences but please do not state what you may or may not do to Otters. For us to prevent this proposal from becoming a potential nightmare for Cheshire its important that we all work together as one. Thankyou



The ‘Weaver Valley Management Board’ (WVMB) has issued a document which promises to turn the River Weaver into “A home for Tarka and Ratty”.

It states that a “a proposed Otter Park will run along the Weaver between Winsford and Northwich forming an attractive green space rich in wildlife.”

The document goes on to say that:


“The Environment Agency’s Otter habitat survey found that Otters move freely in the River Weaver as far as Winsford and signs have also been found at Northwich. New habitat will be created for these popular animals, creating a stimulus to improve water quality for people and wildlife, and improve fish populations. The key action points are:

1. Create the ‘Weaver Otter Park” between Winsford and Northwich, including backwaters for fish breeding, fish passes from meanders to main river, wetland habitat creation and interpretation.

2. Identify further sites in the lower Weaver Valley.



The Otter ‘Bio-diversity Action Plan’ is a national initiative which aims to restore the otter population in areas where they are known to have existed prior to the 1960’s, when many died due to ingesting herbicides and pesticides used in agriculture. However, the introduction of otters to new areas, including unsuitable areas like urban rivers, has caused havoc in other parts of the country. Many valuable specimen fish have been killed and, in some cases, entire fisheries decimated.

Northwich Anglers Association bailiff Neil McComb has first hand experience of the problem:

“At my syndicate lake in Hereford one pair of otters emptied a two acre stock pond which contained over 100 carp up to 25 lb. in weight. More carp were killed in the main lake, where many of the larger specimens sustained horrific damage with fins bitten off, eyes scratched out and chunks of flesh bitten away, especially from the tail wrist and back. All of this happened in just a couple of months between December and February”.


Some fishing clubs have been forced to close, or to slash their fees and there are, of course, wider implications for the tackle trade and for tourism. Anglers simply will not travel to, or pay to fish waters which have had their fish stocks plundered by otters.

The proposal to create new habitat in order to encourage otters to populate the lower Weaver Valley, including the area between Winsford and Northwich, could spell disaster for Northwich Anglers Association, and for angling clubs throughout Cheshire.

Although Otters are territorial animals they have a range of up to 25 miles and, if encouraged to breed in new areas, could spread much further afield by using streams and watercourses to reach other fisheries. The implications of this are painfully obvious. Consider the number of still water fisheries, either connected to, or lying in close proximity to the Weaver and its tributaries.

Some of these waters contain specimen fish which are priceless, not just in financial terms but as an asset to anglers. In particular, one of our fisheries (a SSSI) holds carp which have grown to weights in excess of 40 lbs. with many others now topping the 30 lb. mark. Some of the fish are believed to have been in residence now for around 60 years, and the venue in question is considered to be one of the most important in the North of England. We know that otters attack the largest, slower moving fish first. Often these specimens are badly mauled and left to die a slow and distressing death. The thought that this could happen here in Cheshire is devastating.

Recently we have developed and stocked a new complex of three still waters with a view to encouraging increased participation in angling by juniors, families, the disabled and other groups. This is a long term investment which has cost many thousands of pounds and has turned an area of wasteland into a place of tranquility and natural beauty. This is typical of our commitment to the countryside and the whole community, not just anglers, will benefit for years to come.

The River Weaver itself is thriving, and a recent survey by the Environment Agency confirmed its importance as a first class mixed coarse fishery. The river holds roach, perch, bream, carp, tench, pike, chub, dace, gudgeon and eels, and further upstream there are even a few brown trout. The presence of so many fish, and the fact that the river is free from pollution, is largely due to the efforts of anglers.

The work we have done to improve fisheries, and the environment in the Weaver Valley, hasn’t just taken 5 or 10 or even 20 years. It has taken generations, yet all of this could be wiped out at a stroke.

We cannot turn the clock back to the days before the Industrial Revolution when the Weaver Valley was a very different place, and greater numbers of otters may have lived in the Winsford and Northwich area. You cannot simply reintroduce a predatory animal into an environment which has changed beyond recognition, and hope that everything will be alright. It won’t !

We have already seen the damage caused when mink are released into the wild without any thought for the consequences. The impact on indigenous birds and waterfowl has been horrendous.

In 2003, the last time a large-scale survey was carried out, the European river otter (lutra lutra) was present in more than five times as many areas as it was in 1979 (1). Despite this there has been a dramatic decrease in the availability of eels – once the otter's staple diet, during the same period. The eel population now stands at just 5% of what it should be, which is why otters are feasting on other species of fish which are highly prized by anglers.


The proposed ‘Otter Park’ appears to have been made without any regard for anglers, even though the WVMB has promised to “take into account all waterway users” and has acknowledged that “angling is very popular in the Weaver Valley area”.


We have to question some of the claimed advantages which WVMB says otters will bring. In particular, the notion that otters “will improve water quality for people and wildlife”; which simply doesn’t make sense. Also, the claim that otters will “improve fish populations”. Surely they will have the opposite effect ?


The only way to protect fisheries from otters is to install electric fences. However, these would be prohibitively expensive to install, costly to maintain, and would change the face of the countryside forever. Realistically, the only way we can save our fisheries is to stop more otters arriving in the first place.

What can you do to help ?

By far the best thing you can do is to write to WVMB and register your objection to the proposal. The more letters they receive from concerned individuals, the better our chance of success.

Please write to:

Mike Cooksley,

Chairman: Weaver Valley Development Board,

Cheshire West and Chester Council,

Regeneration

Backford Hall

Chester

Cheshire

CH1 6PZ

Alternatively, you can help by signing our petition, copies of which are available now in local tackle shops. We will do our best to collect as many signatures as possible.


and this:
thought you chaps might be interested to read this, its a joint statement from various bodies regarding otters


The Wildlife Management Group met recently to exchange information and to seek opportunities to resolve issues regarding otters and freshwater fisheries. The meeting was attended by experts from the Angling Trust, Natural England, the Environment Agency, the Angling Trades Association and others.

It focussed, in particular, on the problems involving predation on specimen-sized coarse fish in rivers, although a wide range of issues were also debated. The continuing issue of fencing for selected stillwaters was also discussed in depth.

The Group identified the areas of common ground, and it has started to explore how it can help anglers and the Environment Agency develop healthy and balanced river environments and habitats capable of supporting sustainable, diverse fish populations. Work is progressing on establishing the current distribution of otters, listing useful reference documents and producing guidance to fishery managers on creating sustainable habitats for fish and other forms of wildlife.

During the meeting it became clear that there are several, widely-quoted misconceptions about otters which need to be addressed and corrected:-

•‘The otter predation problem has arisen because of the reintroduction programme’. Otter numbers have increased naturally throughout Britain as a consequence of successful recolonisation and breeding following a major decline in numbers caused by pesticides. The reintroduction programme has simply increased the speed of recovery in parts of England, notably in East Anglia.


•‘The reintroduction programme is continuing unchecked’. Between 1983 and 1999 a small number (117) of captive-bred otters were released to the wild by the Otter Trust. The Vincent Wildlife Trust released rehabilitated animals between 1990 and 1996 (49), over half as part of a Yorkshire release programme, but also a few into East Anglia, Northumbria and on the Trent. No introductions of captive-bred otters have occurred since 1999. There have been releases of rehabilitated or orphaned animals, once they have been nursed back to health, which number no more than four or five a year. As far as it is practicable, rehabilitated otters are released back to the areas where they were found.


•‘Trapping or culling is needed to control otter numbers’. There is no call or case for the culling or trapping of otters, which enjoy full protection under international and national legislation. Otter numbers will be constrained by available breeding habitat and prey.


• ‘Otters are eating coarse fish because of the decline in eel populations’. Otters are opportunist predators which tend to catch and consume fish most readily available to them. There is no evidence that they ‘prefer’ or select particular fish species.


It was agreed that the over-arching strategy should be to create and maintain healthy aquatic environments where balanced populations of fish and otters can co-exist in a sustainable manner. The majority of complaints about otter predation on rivers have arisen where fisheries are suffering from one or more environmental problems - over-abstraction, pollution, habitat damage, etc. The Group recognised that there are and would continue to be site-specific problems involving levels of predation which may reduce the amenity and fishery value.

The Group is exploring areas of possible applied research which might be usefully undertaken to enhance knowledge of otters in the wild and their impacts on fisheries with unbalanced fish populations. It would appear that problems are localised to certain rivers, rather than being universal, and it is important to understand why this is the case. Part of that process will be to identify fish populations which are considered to have been adversely affected by otter predation to assess the nature and severity of the problems and to cross-reference this information to historic fisheries data sets. The Environment Agency is to examine a programme of priority fish restocking to restore sustainable fish populations to these fisheries.

In addition, it was agreed that an information pamphlet will be prepared and issued, setting out the facts about otters and fisheries and providing guidance on how specific problems can be minimised, especially on stillwater fisheries where the impacts on economic and social benefits arising have been most significant. This will complement the recent publication of a joint advisory booklet by the Environment Agency and the Wildlife Trusts on ‘Otters and Stillwater Fisheries’.

These will be among the matters for discussion when the Wildlife Management Group meets again, in the next three months.


sign the on line petition :
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/abolish-plans-for-an-otter-park-alongside-the-river-weaver.html
 
Sorry for urinating on your gripe from a great height but after going to a talk by Graham Scholey last night, all I can say is get over it, like it lump it, they'll come regardless.

And to be perfectly honest the EA's biodiversity specialist has little (actually I'll reword that) he has no regard what so ever for anglers and angling.

Regards rivers, in his and the agency's opinion water quality is on the up, the riverine ecology in England is on the whole improving and otters "do not eat all the fish in any particular water, as if food starts getting scarce they'll extend their territory to compensate."

As for stillwaters; either erect an otter fence (the EA have set aside a huge sum :rolleyes: of £100,000 for 2010 and £50,000 for 2011 to aid clubs etc with the costs incurred, wow how impressive that?!!:rolleyes::rolleyes:)
And if otter fencing isn't viable or practical due to environmental and/or topographical constraints........ TOUGH!!

Except the inevitable! (besides the value you're attributing to an individual specimen carp "is grossly inflated and unrealistic")

All quotations are taken from Graham Scholey, who despite being an intelligent man obviously has no grasp what economics are.

As for online petitions TBH they're worthless cack, the old fashion pen to paper ones weren't much use but online............
How many times do you want me to sign it?:rolleyes:
 
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otters are a sign of a healthy river(the EA).......so you should be happy.......:confused:
 
Sorry for urinating on your gripe from a great height but after going to a talk by Graham Scholey last night, all I can say is get over it, like it lump it, they'll come regardless.

And to be perfectly honest the EA's biodiversity specialist has little (actually I'll reword that) he has no regard what so ever for anglers and angling.

Regards rivers, in his and the agency's opinion water quality is on the up, the riverine ecology in England is on the whole improving and otters "do not eat all the fish in any particular water, as if food starts getting scarce they'll extend their territory to compensate."

As for stillwaters; either erect an otter fence (the EA have set aside a huge sum :rolleyes: of £100,000 for 2010 and £50,000 for 2011 to aid clubs etc with the costs incurred, wow how impressive that?!!:rolleyes::rolleyes:)
And if otter fencing isn't viable or practical due to environmental and/or topographical constraints........ TOUGH!!

Except the inevitable! (besides the value you're attributing to an individual specimen carp "is grossly inflated and unrealistic")

All quotations are taken from Graham Scholey, who despite being an intelligent man obviously has no grasp what economics are.

As for online petitions TBH they're worthless cack, the old fashion pen to paper ones weren't much use but online............
How many times do you want me to sign it?:rolleyes:

Scholey has never made any attempt to hide his total lack of concern for angling and I imagine it must have been a very frustrating evening for you and all other anglers there Colin. The type of spiel they come out with regarding otters and water quality is typical government type spin, or possibly Goebbels like propaganda. In all walks of life today we get fed similarly massaged views/figures. The fact that anyone with an IQ of double figures can see beyond the blatant lies does not seem to deter or embarrass these organisations one bit.
 
This is 'old hat' (12 - 18 months ago) and has been discussed many times. It all started because some misguided PR individual used the term "A home for Tarka and Ratty"

Sticking to the actual facts:

  • 'Otters already move freely in the River Weaver' this includes its catchment i.e. the River Dane.
  • There are to be no reintroductions (nor have there been any for a long time in the UK).
  • This initiative includes the positive points of 'Improve water quality', 'Improve fish populations' and 'back waters for breeding fish'.
I have no issues with this plan in its current form, in fact I see it as a positive step and its NOT just about otters, rather improving the whole weaver catchment area.

From a Barbel perspective, the River Dane is involved here and biggest threat to the Dane at the moment comes from Signal Crayfish (big numbers upsteam at Congleton apparently?), Cormorants and an increasing number of Goosanders (including breeding) to the point that some areas of the river are devoid of small fish.
 
I dont have a problem with otters per say, but why cant the otters spread of there own free will ,without interference from man ? Thats my gripe man + otter = disaster. If you create otter park wont they breed better in an environment purpose built for them at a far higher rate and where will the off-spring go ? telling all my polish friends that otters are delicious ??????:p
 
The editor of AT sees otters in his bedroom! That article is total pants! It makes out that otters are still being released and that the area is over populated, and this from an animal that has a large territory, and won't tolerate others of it's kind encroaching on it. Also to claim White clawed crays are suffering too as a result is very weak, as we all know the real reason why that species is in trouble! And finally how do they know the avocets are not being predated by foxes or mink?
 
The editor of AT sees otters in his bedroom! That article is total pants! It makes out that otters are still being released and that the area is over populated, and this from an animal that has a large territory, and won't tolerate others of it's kind encroaching on it. Also to claim White clawed crays are suffering too as a result is very weak, as we all know the real reason why that species is in trouble! And finally how do they know the avocets are not being predated by foxes or mink?

Neil, in your opinion that article is total pants, that doesn't make it a fact. If the people who live and work there see an increase in otters then I wouldn't disbelieve them, after all it's hardly a rarity these days.

True, the avocets could have problems from other predators like mink also, doesn't automatically rule out the otter fancying a change from barbel though. I agree with your comment about native crayfish, we do all know the real reason for their decline and I also think the signals are the biggest problem our rivers face.
 
I guess the truth lies somewhere between those who blame otters for everything, including Liverpools current form...and those like Neil, who refuse to believe that otters do any harm whatsoever...butter wouldn't melt, deny everything, defend to the death sort of thing.

Personally, I just can't be having any of these silly extremes.

WHAT?....................:D:D:D

Cheers, Dave
 
Neil, in your opinion that article is total pants, that doesn't make it a fact. If the people who live and work there see an increase in otters then I wouldn't disbelieve them, after all it's hardly a rarity these days.

True, the avocets could have problems from other predators like mink also, doesn't automatically rule out the otter fancying a change from barbel though. I agree with your comment about native crayfish, we do all know the real reason for their decline and I also think the signals are the biggest problem our rivers face.

In fact otters have consumed large numbers of white-clawed crayfish on the Wensum. I'm not saying otters are the main reason behind their decline as they were already in trouble long before the otters were released and long before the signals got a foothold, but they will certainly not have helped their plight. There again nor will the rivers large population of non-indigenous chub.
 
I guess the truth lies somewhere between those who blame otters for everything, including Liverpools current form...and those like Neil, who refuse to believe that otters do any harm whatsoever...butter wouldn't melt, deny everything, defend to the death sort of thing.

Personally, I just can't be having any of these silly extremes.

WHAT?....................:D:D:D

Cheers, Dave

including Liverpools current form
up the otters.....:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
The Chairman on Saturday

Subject: Lions (3)


Being replaced by otters, I hear.

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As ever,

B.B.
 
maybe we ought to teach some of the illigal netters ect how to snare them, the pelts must be worth a few bob eh
 
Today in my back garden I come across startled bird of prey , What it was I dont know . It had caught a pigeon and it had been ripped to shreds blood and guts and feathers every where and half eaten . Now I hear you ask .
What the hell as this to do with barbel fishing you well ask . Pigeon fanciers and racing pigeon owners are up in arms about the number of birds being lost to birds of prey and want some thing done about it . As well all know birds of prey are protected just like the Otter . I am afraid to say , Its only my opinion . As with the birds of prey just like the Otter nothing will get done to decrease their numbers
 
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