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Mainline Active Maple 8 - RIP

Hi men

Dave , agreed about the bait , nothing has come close to Grange since . I can remember driving down to mainlines owners bungalow and picking up 30 kilos of the stuff very shortly after it was a finished bait getting on it very early , filling my freezer up , great days . I'm told the clear liquid reacted with the csl as a protin spliter , and your right about the CSL , I often found some of the many bottles I had blown up like footballs !, I kept the tops slightly undone so the live stuff could breathe :D . Not found any like it since , and many are thin like tap water .


Hatter
 
Dave and Mark,
Yes, sticky gooey liquid in the larger bottle. Think there was a warning on the bottle to keep the cap loose. The only other thing I added occasionally was sweet ade. Did find another supplier of the gooey CSL - but long since disappeared. Generally CSL was a great bait additive - even the spray dried stuff, but preferred the goo.
Cheers
Bob
 
Never seen another CSL like that one! Great bait as well....
 
mainline always did good baits that the carp boys found to be top quality, always used best ingredients and became a roaring success, unfortunately ingredient price rises beyond economical values forces bait firms to alter recipes and this is how/why really successful baits get changed and popularity ceases and production ceases, unfortunately like all businesses once demand increases substancially so does the prices:(
 
Ehh, bit of a numpty here, but can anyone tell me what CSL is?:eek::) Have a bit of trouble with acronyms and abbreviations.

Thanks
Stephen
 
Stephen - CSL stands for corn steep liquor. It is dark brown in colour with a distinctive yeast aroma and is a co product from milling or soaking maize. It makes a great bait additive which fish find attractive.
Hope this helps,
Cheers
Bob
 
Bob Gill said:
Stephen - CSL stands for corn steep liquor. It is dark brown in colour with a distinctive yeast aroma and is a co product from milling or soaking maize. It makes a great bait additive which fish find attractive.
Hope this helps,
Cheers
Bob
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Thanks Bob.

Stephen
 
I used assassin 8 for a good few years on the hants avon caught fish in all sorts of conditions totally loved the bait then it was discontinued so started using fusion took me a while to get confidence in the bait now I've heard that is being phased out aswell.I like mainline baits but am thinking now of going to john baker baits as IMO they do not seem to discontinue their base mixes.
 
Bob Gill said:
Dave and Mark,
Yes, sticky gooey liquid in the larger bottle. Think there was a warning on the bottle to keep the cap loose. The only other thing I added occasionally was sweet ade. Did find another supplier of the gooey CSL - but long since disappeared. Generally CSL was a great bait additive - even the spray dried stuff, but preferred the goo.
Cheers
Bob
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An odd one that though Bob, it reminded me of those strange Ginger Beer plants we had as kids, where you had to feed the 'thing' sugar and it produced ginger beer. In this case, the mystery ball of sludge in the bottle kept producing liquid CSL if you didn't disturb it too much :D As you say, a brilliant additive.

Cheers, Dave.
 
Bob Gill said:
Stephen - CSL stands for corn steep liquor. It is dark brown in colour with a distinctive yeast aroma and is a co product from milling or soaking maize. It makes a great bait additive which fish find attractive.
Hope this helps,
Cheers
Bob
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Hi men,

The other thing is that it is easy to thin down , which makes it easy to sell less potent versions , but it's still CSL .

Hatter
 
Jamie - Yes, really hate getting a nice consistent bait and then having it change (or even discontinued) - great drop in confidence for me. It's one reason why I used to formulate my own, but these days just haven't the time or inclination to go back. Really rated Hinders B***z, always caught and was instant. However, this changed - both visibly and aroma wise. Bought some in one April (think 2012) and another lot in June - the difference was marked and at this point lost confidence in it. What I found frustrating that despite emails and a phone call no-one would shed any light on the matter. After a previous experience with 'old' (the light brown liquid with sediment/crystals in the bottom) and 'new' (light yellow clear liquid) Betalin decided to avoid their products. Apparently it hadn't changed - yeh sure thing!


Cheers
Bob
 
All this talk about special baits and additives is so foreign to me it concerns me that I might have let all this pass me by. on the other hand should I be worried or just stick to the old favourites such as worms maggots meat corn and bread, if there was a better bait than any of the aforementioned I would drink a pint of CSL, whatever that is:eek:

Give em' what they really want I say :)
 
Neil Smart said:
All this talk about special baits and additives is so foreign to me it concerns me that I might have let all this pass me by. on the other hand should I be worried or just stick to the old favourites such as worms maggots meat corn and bread, if there was a better bait than any of the aforementioned I would drink a pint of CSL, whatever that is:eek:

Give em' what they really want I say :)
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A pint or two of moonshine usually catches you a big girl Neil;) Well it did me, many moons ago :)

Stephen
 
How right you are Hatter. I had an 11.04 last night, but that was only by watching the tip rattle as the crays massacred my bait in ten minutes flat from when it hit the water. When the twitching stopped, I would give it another ten minutes in case it was barbel scaring the crays off...then wind in and re-bait.

I would just love to be stood behind Neil while he was trying to catch on the baits he so condescendingly and sarcastically infers are all you need....would be the funniest thing since Morecambe and Wise :D

You might just get away with meat for a while on our waters, if you used a big enough chunk...but the others would be a farce.

Cheers, Dave.
 
You might want to throw in cynical too Dave, bait manufactures products come and go, they would not want anyone to be too complacent, it seems a minefield as far as the ordinary angler is concerned, swamped with the 'best' or the next best boilie to shake the Angling world.

Of course fish will eat just about anything they fancy, and the rule should be keep it simple stupid, but that of course would not satisfy the huge and varied market that is Carp baits would it? Just go into any tackle shop and look at all the space that is given over to shelves full of different baits, all claiming extraordinary fish catching properties.

I ask you did the likes of Trefor West become successful with fancy baits? No he didn't for him it was a large piece of Spam hair rigged with fuse wire and a cork ball, or if he had to get fancy it was a smelly paste concoction that could be made at home with eggs mostly and some left over's.:)

He did however capitulate a little with his sausage sizzle, granted, but hey everyone has to make a living.

Talking of which, perhaps the next best thing would be Signal Cray Boilies, it would certainly serve two purposes in clearing your rivers of the things and probably be a pretty good fish catcher too, there you go Dave something to get your teeth into, just remember who gave you the idea after your first £1m;)
 
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