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Laser Pens

Neil Blood

Neil Blood

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Can anyone confirm examples of where angling clubs have banned the use of laser pens (anglers use them to scare waterfowl off baited areas) and why they were banned i.e other anglers/members of the public accidentally had one shone at them, accident waiting to happen or general concern for bird welfare etc?
 
The Chairman on Wednesday

Certainly haven't heard about our Dear Carp Brethren using them for vitally important Tuftie-scaring, but have heard of retards using such pens to target passing aeroplanes.

Might be the very same chaps for all I know...


As ever,

B.B.
 
Neil Blood said:
Can anyone confirm examples of where angling clubs have banned the use of laser pens (anglers use them to scare waterfowl off baited areas) and why they were banned i.e other anglers/members of the public accidentally had one shone at them, accident waiting to happen or general concern for bird welfare etc?
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I'm not sure about bird welfare but I have seen fish spook away from the beam, admittedly they were only goldfish in a living room tank but these were fish which were used to allot of disturbance, what effect would they have on wild fish?

Having worked with military lasers I doubt that even the high powered laser pens could do any lasting damage, to birds or humans, other than the passing dazzle effect.
 
Look at the headtorch thread. The 300 lumen cree torches work a treat for scaring the wildlife (in a more friendly manner:))
 
I had no compunction whatsoever over using a small laser pen to keep the birdlife away from my baits at night when I was regularly carping. I think you will find that despite all the ill informed huffing and puffing that occurs on these pages whenever this subject pops up, it IS preferable to the possible (inevitable?) alternative.

I feel reasonably certain that could a swan/tuftie or whatever talk, it would confirm that being mildly frightened by a flash of harmless laser light is WAY better than being hooked in the beak or tongue, followed by the nasty experience of being played and landed in order to be unhooked and released. I am only guessing though :D

Cue the 'holier than thou' mob to descend with their usual load of **** :rolleyes:

Cheers, Dave :D
 
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David Gauntlett said:
I had no compunction whatsoever over using a small laser pen to keep the birdlife away from my baits at night when I was regularly carping. I think you will find that despite all the ill informed huffing and puffing that occurs on these pages whenever this subject pops up, it IS preferable to the possible (inevitable?) alternative.

I feel reasonably certain that could a swan/tuftie or whatever talk, it would confirm that being mildly frightened by a flash of harmless laser light is WAY better than being hooked in the beak or tongue, followed by the nasty experience of being played and landed in order to be unhooked and released. I am only guessing though :D

Cue the 'holier than thou' mob to descend with their usual load of **** :rolleyes:

Cheers, Dave :D
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Exactly Dave, better "being mildly frightened by a flash of light" than it is to get 'educated' or 'persuaded' not too steal baits.


Educated - via a catapult.

Persuaded - with a shotgun.

If you do happen to hook up a 'feathered friend' watch out with Moorhens, there claws are damned sharp and foul hooked Coots pull back the hardest, but watch them as they approach the net, as they dart hard for the marginal cover.;):eek:
 
Paul Boote said:
The Chairman on Wednesday

Certainly haven't heard about our Dear Carp Brethren using them for vitally important Tuftie-scaring, but have heard of retards using such pens to target passing aeroplanes.

Might be the very same chaps for all I know...


As ever,

B.B.
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Seemingly not au fait with all matters angling then Paul. Carp anglers (some) have been using them for years on waters with a problematic bird population.
Before you try to contort what I've just written, they are often used to deter birds from hanging around and diving down on baits (not just surface baits).
As much for the birds welfare as anything else.:rolleyes:

If you want keeping upto date on all matters 'carpy' Neil Smart is a veritable plethora of knowledge on all such things (surprisingly), send him a PM, he might keep you informed...
 
Colin Gordon said:
Seemingly not au fait with all matters angling then Paul. Carp anglers (some) have been using them for years on waters with a problematic bird population.
Before you try to contort what I've just written, they are often used to deter birds from hanging around and diving down on baits (not just surface baits).
As much for the birds welfare as anything else.:rolleyes:

If you want keeping upto date on all matters 'carpy' Neil Smart is a veritable plethora of knowledge on all such things (surprisingly), send him a PM, he might keep you informed...
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Here we go again, rolling eyes in abundance, the relentless sarcastic remarks, and to top it all a pathetic attempt in justifying something that has no place in angling, All grist to the mill though for the anti's, well done:) And in the name of protecting the ''problematic bird population''.
Why don't you up sticks and peddle this rubbish on some other Forums that would find your rhetoric acceptable and save this site for those that prefer not to be reminded that you are first and foremost a Carp Angler and demonstrate a cynicism to those that are not as being somewhat a lesser angler.
 
Neil Blood said:
Can anyone confirm examples of where angling clubs have banned the use of laser pens (anglers use them to scare waterfowl off baited areas) and why they were banned i.e other anglers/members of the public accidentally had one shone at them, accident waiting to happen or general concern for bird welfare etc?
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So what have you 'heard' Neil?

Is this just Bull or do have any facts to share with us?
 
Neil Smart said:
Here we go again, rolling eyes in abundance, the relentless sarcastic remarks, and to top it all a pathetic attempt in justifying something that has no place in angling, All grist to the mill though for the anti's, well done:) And in the name of protecting the ''problematic bird population''.
Why don't you up sticks and peddle this rubbish on some other Forums that would find your rhetoric acceptable and save this site for those that prefer not to be reminded that you are first and foremost a Carp Angler and demonstrate a cynicism to those that are not as being somewhat a lesser angler.
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Oh heck:eek: Here we go again...........It looks like the Moorhens are not the only ones with claws.....:D
 
Thank you Neil Blood for starting a thread on something I knew nothing about. Once had to stop fishing after being 'ducked out' on a local lake. Hooked one which took a black eyed been on the drop, very upsetting for both of us.
Thank you also to those who have contributed in the right way. As the rest of it! Maybe ''an ego too big, my fishing is better and more moral than yours, keyboard warrior, I have never liked you, feel like being a petulant little girl ( apologies to little girls), got the hump,'' thread could be started. People could then post in the right place and mod s could just move the relevant posts.
Started as an interesting thread.
Shaun of the sick
 
im sorry, is it just me but how would a laser pen rid a duck/swan etc. is it the dot on the water or on the bird, or does the beam show up through water. seriouslly how does it work, are we talking about during the night when a beam could be seen easier, if so surely most water birds are asleep
 
neil if your fishing at night,and you see swans on there way thro your swim,shine the beam at them,n they do 1 simples ( 9 out of 10 times they do turn around)
 
Shaun Morris said:
Thank you Neil Blood for starting a thread on something I knew nothing about. Once had to stop fishing after being 'ducked out' on a local lake. Hooked one which took a black eyed been on the drop, very upsetting for both of us.
Thank you also to those who have contributed in the right way. As the rest of it! Maybe ''an ego too big, my fishing is better and more moral than yours, keyboard warrior, I have never liked you, feel like being a petulant little girl ( apologies to little girls), got the hump,'' thread could be started. People could then post in the right place and mod s could just move the relevant posts.
Started as an interesting thread.
Shaun of the sick
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Yes it is upsetting for both bird and angler, and so it was when I had to take a hapless Mallard who took a fancy to my bread to the vets to remove a size 4 from it's beak:eek: But then again that Mallard was only doing what Mallards do and the blame was all mine, not ''ducking out'' and cursing the fact that we have to share the water with water fowl.
But then as I see it most of the 'problems' with birds seem to have come from those that fish the lakes and ponds, which is why perhaps I was unaware that some resort to WMD to deter the birds:)
 
Colin Gordon said:
Seemingly not au fait with all matters angling then Paul. Carp anglers (some) have been using them for years on waters with a problematic bird population.
Before you try to contort what I've just written, they are often used to deter birds from hanging around and diving down on baits (not just surface baits).
As much for the birds welfare as anything else.:rolleyes:

If you want keeping upto date on all matters 'carpy' Neil Smart is a veritable plethora of knowledge on all such things (surprisingly), send him a PM, he might keep you informed...
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You would be surprised just how au fait with modern "Angling" Practice I am, Colin, and also how far ahead of the double-standards dross who inevitably do such stuff then get all shirty or pious and po-faced when having to defend their actions. Coarse and Game: some distance ahead in thinking, ethics and practice, always. Only way to be.
 
That'll be those suicide swans, strapped up with explosives and 'steered' by terrorists with laser pens!

Finger printed and DNA tested!? There's no hiding now! Unbelievable!
 
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