Joe Fletcher
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June 16 dilemma
- Thread starter Steve Double
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Neil Smart
Senior Member
I don't know how you give up supporting your country or your club because some players dive, some of us can't, anymore than give up fishing because we might not like the Carp scene Bob Robers, the Barbel Socity, or Mr Otter.
I have tried with football, it is just not possible, it might be easier supporting Germany, Man U, Chelsea or whoever, but it is not an option, ask Hatter.
Derek Funcks
Senior Member & Supporter
Once upon a time
Many moons ago, a mate and i went night fishing at Sefton Park lake in Liverpool. It had been a real summers day, high in the 20,s i think, and as such, being young and naive, we went without the appropriate warm clothing. We arrived at the lake before darkness fell, tackled up, and got set for a good nights tench fishing, tench upto 7 maybe 8lb. By midnight, we,d had a couple of fish each, but none of the biggies. The mist was by now, rolling over the lake, and being a cloudless night, the temp had dropped quite a bit. By 2 a.m. we were freezing our b******s off. In my little cantilever tackle box, i had a Ralgex rub on stick, when i had a Eurika moment, just behind us in the rocks was a cave. In i went, stripped off to the birthday suit, and covered myself from head to toe in this potent orange rub, and i do mean everywhere. WOW!!!! instant warmth, fantastic, or so i thought. Within 10 minutes, my skin felt like it was starting to bubble with the heat, 2 minutes later i was almost in tears, my knackers were on fire, only one thing for it, my cycle bottle full of orange juice was quickly dispatched, but to no avail, one more option, back down to the birthday suit and into the lake, the steam looked like a boiling kettle, but what relief. The mate was just creased up on the bank, couldn,t believe what i was doing, then realised i had fecked his swim.
Moral of the story, IF YOU GO NIGHT FISHING, TAKE WARM CLOTHING NO MATTER WHAT.
The above taken from this very funny thread/read
https://barbel.co.uk/site/vbulletin/forum/barbel-talk/9917-fishing-stories.html
Graham Shaw
Senior Member
Brilliant Derek.
But knowing that area pretty well meself, you would need to have a screw loose to be in ´Seffy Park´at night. On the other hand the Deep Heat and erratic behaviour might help as scally repellent.
Not a straight comparison, though is it? I would never give up watching & playing football itself - football has been and remains a vital thread through my life - but I could imagine giving up supporting a country or even a team because of factors like its fans, players, owners, prices charged, governing bodies, etc. And if enough people do the same, wonderful things could happen (FC United being the shining example)
Equally I could leave a fishing club because of the people in it, their rules and decisions, but I wouldn´t have to give up fishing.
It really depends whether you love the sport more, or are devoted slavishly to a club or country more.
I´m the former and believe that too many people don´t question their loyalty to such entities anything like enough.
But knowing that area pretty well meself, you would need to have a screw loose to be in ´Seffy Park´at night. On the other hand the Deep Heat and erratic behaviour might help as scally repellent.
Not a straight comparison, though is it? I would never give up watching & playing football itself - football has been and remains a vital thread through my life - but I could imagine giving up supporting a country or even a team because of factors like its fans, players, owners, prices charged, governing bodies, etc. And if enough people do the same, wonderful things could happen (FC United being the shining example)
Equally I could leave a fishing club because of the people in it, their rules and decisions, but I wouldn´t have to give up fishing.
It really depends whether you love the sport more, or are devoted slavishly to a club or country more.
I´m the former and believe that too many people don´t question their loyalty to such entities anything like enough.
Neil Smart
Senior Member
Yes to a point, but there remains one constant for me throughout my life, Bristol City and fishing, not say I am happy always with the former, but it's non negotiable.
Can I add all things England too?
Neil Smart
Senior Member
Funny the Deep Heat has come up now, I was nearly going to post similar... I have an age related sore thumb joint, and whilst in the garage found a can of the stuff, so duly sprayed my thumb, only for the nozzle to aim right into my eye, that hurt, a lot
Hi men ,
You dont choose a football club , it has chosen you , you dont decide to fish , it has decided you must , fact .
Believe me , Luton Town FC have given me and my family raw emotions as strong as any you can feel . In 25 years we have gone from cup winners in the best final at Wembley against Arsenal , qualifying for European football , to seasons in non league . Beaten in playoff finals , promotion, to start our long trek back up the leagues , knowing with certainty that it will all happen again . Cant fight this affliction , because like fishing , its in the blood , there is room for both.
Hatter
You dont choose a football club , it has chosen you , you dont decide to fish , it has decided you must , fact .
Believe me , Luton Town FC have given me and my family raw emotions as strong as any you can feel . In 25 years we have gone from cup winners in the best final at Wembley against Arsenal , qualifying for European football , to seasons in non league . Beaten in playoff finals , promotion, to start our long trek back up the leagues , knowing with certainty that it will all happen again . Cant fight this affliction , because like fishing , its in the blood , there is room for both.
Hatter
Graham Shaw
Senior Member
nah.
people often feel they have to give up fishing for years, often for relationship reasons. Same football. Hopefully they´ll come back to it later
some people can give up smoking, some can´t.
some people think it´s ok to let their kids smoke, some don´t.
some people think it´s ok to tell their children what religion to believe, some don´t.
Some can give up their parents´religion, some can´t.
some people think it´s ok to tell your kids what football team to support, some don´t.
some can give up their parents´team, some can´t
I think both of the last two are forms of child abuse meself.
people often feel they have to give up fishing for years, often for relationship reasons. Same football. Hopefully they´ll come back to it later
some people can give up smoking, some can´t.
some people think it´s ok to let their kids smoke, some don´t.
some people think it´s ok to tell their children what religion to believe, some don´t.
Some can give up their parents´religion, some can´t.
some people think it´s ok to tell your kids what football team to support, some don´t.
some can give up their parents´team, some can´t
I think both of the last two are forms of child abuse meself.
Neil Smart
Senior Member
The only constant is the football team, all the rest is negotiable, I don't make the rules.
Anthony Pearson
Senior Member
Go fishing. Take a radio with you and have it playing through a single earpiece (so you are still aware of your surroundings/alarms etc.). The hair on my back still stands up every time I think back to the commentary of the Liverpool v St Etienne match and Fairclough's goal! I was listening to it as a teenager at the time and the atmosphere conveyed was electric.
Andy Bell
Senior Member
I used to follow Liverpool, but Brighton was my local team, I used to watch Brighton regularly, but I know i'll never go back, it has absolutely no appeal to me these days.
I watch Rugby, both league and Union, that's my choice, I think that while the supporters are just as passionate in rugby as soccer they are much less confrontational, more mature and so much better behaved, to the point of no segregation needed
And I have had a sabbatical from fishing, more to do with work commitments than choice, I may not be doing the same types of fishing but I am still very much an angler.
I watch Rugby, both league and Union, that's my choice, I think that while the supporters are just as passionate in rugby as soccer they are much less confrontational, more mature and so much better behaved, to the point of no segregation needed
And I have had a sabbatical from fishing, more to do with work commitments than choice, I may not be doing the same types of fishing but I am still very much an angler.
Joe Winstanley
Senior Member & Supporter
Agree with Andy. One of the most enjoyable games I have ever been to was at Old Trafford when the might reds hosted Celtic in the Champions league. The ticketing allocation seemed to have gone a bit hay wire and Celtic fans were scattered all around the east and north stand - with no discernible Celtic section. I ended up being sat in the East stand instead of usual seat and found myself sat cheek-by-jowl with a load of well oiled Celtic fans. I did wonder if things might get a bit lary - but it was absolutely brilliant. Good-natured, edgy and very funny banter between both sets of fans for the full 90 minutes, it helps that it was good game which United won 3-2.
When the final whistle blew the sight of fans from both sides shaking hands and back slapping was slightly surreal. But I guess it would have only taken a few idiots for all of that to have been ruined - bit like the outside Bolyn on Tuesday.
Andy Bell
Senior Member
We Had a very similar experience with some Leinster fans in Cardiff at a European champs a few years ago, round the bars before the game & bugger me if we didn't bump into the same group afterwards, so it was off around the town again, brilliant lads, brilliant night, and a hangover to remember!
Ryan Spencer
Active Member
Will take a DAB radio while on the banks of the tidal Trent
David Gauntlett
Senior Member
Reminds me of the Billy Connolly funny where he got into the wrong part of the stands in a Celtic/Rangers game. The other lot didn't beat him up, they just did a 'Big Jobby' in his shoes and made him put them back on
Cheers, Dave.
Joe Winstanley
Senior Member & Supporter
Reminds me of the Billy Connolly funny where he got into the wrong part of the stands in a Celtic/Rangers game. The other lot didn't beat him up, they just did a 'Big Jobby' in his shoes and made him put them back on
Cheers, Dave.
Dave - there was no way on earth I'd have gone to fetch the bovril...
Dean Aston
Senior Member
First week of season is very hit and miss
Steve Double
Senior Member
Indeed. I usually find the chub are ravenous, barbel substantially less so.
Paul Hayes
Senior Member
This is great, you can all leave the riverbank and hit the pub to watch the footy. I'll be on the bank with a choice of swims. Stuff the football fishing comes first.
Stephen Whyte
Senior Member
Just a pity that other game that is played with a large egg is not on at the same time, might be able to have a choice of whole rivers
Stephen