Mike Hodgkiss
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Hello Jon . Could you outline the advantages / qualities of flurocarbon as a hooklength
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hook length to braid
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Hello Jon . Could you outline the advantages / qualities of flurocarbon as a hooklength
Gwyn Jeffs
No Longer a Member
This coated braid thing makes me laugh.
They spent years developing a hooklink that has all the qualities of mono at an extortionate price for 15 or 20 meters.
And then they say....strip the coating to make it behave like a soft braid.
I used mono for years and caught plenty, switched to soft braid after watching a particular video and caught really well.
Does it matter? Probably not. But combi-links and hinge tigs make me laugh.
It's a fish, that will pick up a size 2 hook and a lump of meat the size of a cigarette box.
As I gradually came away from carp fishing I made a point of using mono knotless knots on such pressured waters as Oxford Linear, and still did ok.
And before you think ' carper ', I was always out fishing for everything. Fly fishing for trout, trotting a stick float, lure fishing for pike, playing with a centrepin, pole fishing, using a whip, worm fishing in tiny streams, grayling on the nymph etc etc.
My claim to fame...I revolutionised the zig rig and made it what is has ( sadly ) become. Still plaigiarised to this day. No names mentioned Nick Helluer.
Barbel aren't tackle shy in any way once feeding, rather naive actually.
In snaggy swims I catch on 45lb quicksilver and a size 2 hook in daylight.
Go soft braid or hard mono/fluoro, whatever suits.
The barbel will pick it up regardless.
D rigs and 360s next ffs.
They spent years developing a hooklink that has all the qualities of mono at an extortionate price for 15 or 20 meters.
And then they say....strip the coating to make it behave like a soft braid.
I used mono for years and caught plenty, switched to soft braid after watching a particular video and caught really well.
Does it matter? Probably not. But combi-links and hinge tigs make me laugh.
It's a fish, that will pick up a size 2 hook and a lump of meat the size of a cigarette box.
As I gradually came away from carp fishing I made a point of using mono knotless knots on such pressured waters as Oxford Linear, and still did ok.
And before you think ' carper ', I was always out fishing for everything. Fly fishing for trout, trotting a stick float, lure fishing for pike, playing with a centrepin, pole fishing, using a whip, worm fishing in tiny streams, grayling on the nymph etc etc.
My claim to fame...I revolutionised the zig rig and made it what is has ( sadly ) become. Still plaigiarised to this day. No names mentioned Nick Helluer.
Barbel aren't tackle shy in any way once feeding, rather naive actually.
In snaggy swims I catch on 45lb quicksilver and a size 2 hook in daylight.
Go soft braid or hard mono/fluoro, whatever suits.
The barbel will pick it up regardless.
D rigs and 360s next ffs.
Joe Winstanley
Senior Member & Supporter
I use Drennan sinkbraid in either 12lb or 15lb depending on the conditions - it's never let me down.
I use 4-6" of braid tied using a knotless knot to the hook and tied to a small swivel. On the other end of the swivel I attached anywhere between 2-6ft of 12 or 16lb Pro-clear (again depending on the conditions). The braid provides a bit more natural movement and the swivel helps to pin it down (or so I think). I think the longer hooklength helps get more bites. I use the same set-up (always on a running rig) whether fishing maggots, casters, boilies or pellets. I copied it off Stef Horak about 10 years ago and it hasn't let me down. It works v.well particularly with small hooks and maggots/casters in low and clear conditions. At 6' +it can be b@gger to swing out though in very windy conditions.
Whatever style of fishing I tend to find a rig that works and then stick with it come rain or shine, I'm not up for faffing about and chopping and changing about. Finding the fish and getting the baiting right is the important bit, imho.
I use 4-6" of braid tied using a knotless knot to the hook and tied to a small swivel. On the other end of the swivel I attached anywhere between 2-6ft of 12 or 16lb Pro-clear (again depending on the conditions). The braid provides a bit more natural movement and the swivel helps to pin it down (or so I think). I think the longer hooklength helps get more bites. I use the same set-up (always on a running rig) whether fishing maggots, casters, boilies or pellets. I copied it off Stef Horak about 10 years ago and it hasn't let me down. It works v.well particularly with small hooks and maggots/casters in low and clear conditions. At 6' +it can be b@gger to swing out though in very windy conditions.
Whatever style of fishing I tend to find a rig that works and then stick with it come rain or shine, I'm not up for faffing about and chopping and changing about. Finding the fish and getting the baiting right is the important bit, imho.
Jon Frisby
Senior Member & Supporter
A couple of reasons. It's heavy and generally stiffer than mono which helps the combi hooking. It's less visible(Which isn't a reason why I use it) but amnesia iS more visible and that's just as good too. It's seems to be more abrasive resistant than maybe mono and coated braid. If I can scratch the coating off with a nail, surely it can't be that good once the coatings gone.
I use super fc sniper in 16 and 20lb, and can't fault it and the 12 is good too. 3 and a half turn mahseer is the best knot for the stuff too.
Terry Simner
Senior Member & Supporter
Hi All, I know it's off OP but... having problems with snap-off (~1" from hook) when using Grand Max Soft Plus as a 4ft hooklength below braid main when freelining/rolling meat. Twice now it's just 'pinged' when I've had a take...leaving a clean-cut end with no frazzle. On both occasions I felt V little or no resistance, and in neither case did I strike hard.
Has anyone had bad experiences with Soft Plus? I'm thinking that ok, it's thinner and softer than many other fluoro..but does that mean more fragility/less abrasion resistance?
NB... I suppose that bit of line, 1" from the hook, gets the severest bashing as the meat trundles downstream over rocks?? But whenever I've had to pull for a break it finally 'gives' at t'other (swivel) end of the hooklength.
N.B.2!... and it ain't pike as managed to retrieve one of my hooks from another angler. My hook had 'pinged' off on the strike and 30mins later, 200 yds downstream of where I'd been fishing, an angler caught the fish I'd lost...still with the barbless hook in its mouth! I wouldn't have known but when I 'bailiffed' him he told me he'd just had a barbel with a leaded hook in its mouth. Now what are the chances of that eh?
:O
Has anyone had bad experiences with Soft Plus? I'm thinking that ok, it's thinner and softer than many other fluoro..but does that mean more fragility/less abrasion resistance?
NB... I suppose that bit of line, 1" from the hook, gets the severest bashing as the meat trundles downstream over rocks?? But whenever I've had to pull for a break it finally 'gives' at t'other (swivel) end of the hooklength.
N.B.2!... and it ain't pike as managed to retrieve one of my hooks from another angler. My hook had 'pinged' off on the strike and 30mins later, 200 yds downstream of where I'd been fishing, an angler caught the fish I'd lost...still with the barbless hook in its mouth! I wouldn't have known but when I 'bailiffed' him he told me he'd just had a barbel with a leaded hook in its mouth. Now what are the chances of that eh?
:O