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Heron vs Predator!

Chris Turnbull said:
There ya go........ The Otter Trust is the world's leading Otter conservation organisation, the only place in the West Country breeding the British Otter regularly and reintroducing young otters into the wild to save the otter from extinction.
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Doesn't happen Chris. We were all lying, the Otter Trust are lying, any other group who chooses to own up will be lying....everybody is lying. Except of course for those who slated us loudly in the past for making these allegations and spreading such malicious, unfounded gossip. THEY were definitely NOT lying. We know they weren't, because they told us so :rolleyes:

You couldn't make it up mate :D

Cheers, Dave.
 
Just a thought, though, chaps: all single species groups - fur, feather, fish - lie through their teeth or remain conveniently silent or plead faulty memories when asked uncomfortable questions. How about the truth being told about, say, our own often illegal, in the interests of sport, guerilla stockings of fish? All the movements and stockings of pike, zander, barbel and carp over the years....

It cuts both ways; we are just getting very shirty and self righteous in our outrage now that it has happened to us...
 
Hi men

It cuts both ways; we are just getting very shirty and self righteous in our outrage now that it has happened to us...

Two wrongs Paul ?.

Hatter
 
Hugo,

I trust your beaver comments don't relate to the incident one night at Beef's pond on the road twixt the Hatch and Forest Row.

Despite his wife's protestations it honestly wasn't me that wielded the Gillette Mach III that night.
 
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Some good news in the newspapers today, well, The Sun actually, reported that two litters comprising 19 Otterhound puppies have been born recently. Apparently, these dogs are more endangered than the giant panda with fewer than 1000 left in the World. One of these dogs might make an ideal companion when on the bankside. Genuine post, this one.
 
And just watch the dinosaur owners of those lovely pups, in their cynical and selfish desire to work hounds once again, kill off Angling.
 
I seem to hear a lot about animals being allowed to do what comes naturally. If it's ok for cats to slaughter protected birds, by the million, cormorants and otters to clear fisheries, then otterhounds should also be allowed to pursue their quarry in the same manner. Should there be a degree of control in any predator prey relationship? Or should we pick and choose where we believe that intervention is deemed necessary, depending on an individual's viewpoint.
 
Oh dear, looks that we might be sliding into an ancient history revisited Hunting With Dogs thread. Suggest that a very few might do a Doctor Who jump back to 2002 - '06 and revisit the hundreds of pages of mind-numbing online nothing when huntsmen, many of them mere politicking non-Anglers, invaded Angling sites en masse and argued their point ad infinitum et ad nauseam, attacking anyone who took issue with them. Fishing first, I've always believed.
 
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Jim Foxall said:
I seem to hear a lot about animals being allowed to do what comes naturally. If it's ok for cats to slaughter protected birds, by the million, cormorants and otters to clear fisheries, then otterhounds should also be allowed to pursue their quarry in the same manner. Should there be a degree of control in any predator prey relationship? Or should we pick and choose where we believe that intervention is deemed necessary, depending on an individual's viewpoint.
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They're not natural though are they, having been selectively bred by us, like every other form of domestic dog, from the European wolf. So to say they are rarer than Pandas don't make a lot of sense either.
Pedantic I know, but still very true:)
 
Jim Foxall said:
Some good news in the newspapers today, well, The Sun actually, reported that two litters comprising 19 Otterhound puppies have been born recently. Apparently, these dogs are more endangered than the giant panda with fewer than 1000 left in the World. One of these dogs might make an ideal companion when on the bankside. Genuine post, this one.
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The otter hounds, now officially mink hounds, that I have come across are usually those rejected by the hunt as puppies rather than any special breed. Otter hunts being seen as the poor man's hunting by the fox people as it is conducted on foot so not a truly aristocratic pass time. Still I am sure the Sun will be a source of all that is true as ever.

Great animals, although they can come as a big surprise when they arrive in force in your swim:)
 
Nigel Gray said:
Hugo,

I trust your beaver comments don't relate to the incident one night at Beef's pond on the road twixt the Hatch and Forest Row.

Despite his wife's protestations it honestly wasn't me that wielded the Gillette Mach III that night.
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Nigel,

You might say that but I could not possibly comment.

" Shave off! " as a naval colleague used to cry.

Regards

Hugo


 
Pete Marshall said:
The otter hounds, now officially mink hounds, that I have come across are usually those rejected by the hunt as puppies rather than any special breed. Otter hunts being seen as the poor man's hunting by the fox people as it is conducted on foot so not a truly aristocratic pass time. Still I am sure the Sun will be a source of all that is true as ever.

Great animals, although they can come as a big surprise when they arrive in force in your swim:)
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The photo of an otterhound, Daily Telegraph P2 Monday April 2, shows a dog, akin to the size of a proper poodle, and, on its hind legs must be 5' plus. This sure ain't no fox hound! Google otterhound Daily Telegraph. Worth a look.
 
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