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Help Needed.

Its Fantasic fun Graham.

You should have a look at Tony (Antonio) Rocca blog for the fun they have. Danny Collins and Hobby have had some time with him as well. I went to a different place though.

Mark, you can say "Quisiera una cerveza grande" and its fine

"Oy'll ave a point of cider" , just doesn't work i'm afraid, so best not go.;)

Crooky.......rumbled!

Anyway Iv'e finished now. Thanks for the kind comments and advise.

Look out for the diary / article

"Barbarpping for Carp" when Its stopped raining and I get going.......

Graham
 
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Hi Graham
Loved the pic. especially the seat with attached ruck sack. I use one of those, and love the the fact it looks like something a grand parent buys a 13 yearold for xmas. I think I suffer from inverted snobbery. But look at your left leg man. You are fishing in strides that have an ironed crease in them. What were you thinking.
Shaun of the dead
 
Andrew. I have invented it, I think, so I'll call it what I want.:p

Shaun. Well we had to climb down a 300 foot incline, after leaving the car with the aXsX ripped out at 200 feet. The chair, they are great. Especially as hand luggage on the plane avoiding massive baggage charges.

Incidently, when we went next time, we struggled to find the river, only to realise after along time it was now a massive Lake under about 200 feet of water.


And....the trousers and camo? I found that adding a massive gold medallion on hunky chain around my neck worked like magic in the evenings....

You know what they say.

Form is temporary. Class is permanent.:D
 
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Neil Smart said:
Wannabee Luddites? Well consider if we all stopped using Hi Tech carp baits and gear for river fish just how difficult would it be than to catch them on 'naturals'?

The transition that was from carp to barbel for many was to follow the same path, and in doing so the real delights in river fishing was lost, of course the mantra should be KISS Keep It Simple Stupid and believe me the free lined worm willl often outfish any HNV:rolleyes: bait, it's just that we have made it so difficult for ourselves.
However as some have said we are all different and are free to follow which ever path we desire, but to label those that are not Hi Tech as Luddites and jealous is elitist nonsense.
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I didn't mention jealousy, they are simply denying part of their angling heritage because it came from dedicated, thinking, carp anglers, which they mistakenly confuse with the modern-day carpers they see on the bank.
Which is hardly elitist. It's sad. :eek:

People want to moan about camo gear?
Why not moan about Dick Walker and co starting the ball rolling, constructing hides at Redmire all those decades ago? No?
:rolleyes:

"and in doing so the real delights in river fishing was lost"

And that, imho, is condescending tosh. :eek:


Clive, if you want to know why 3 rods, why don't you ask them?
There might be a simple answer that makes sense. ;)
 
You've had to climb down a 300 ft incline, you are fishing, and you look smarter than I do when I go out to dinner. Not sure this is in any way natural. Methinks photo Bucket!. I have no idea what photo bucket is, but it came up in a thread last year and seemed to cause a lot of offence.
Shaun of the tramplookalike.
 
I have asked them Simon. And none of them can give an explanation as to why three identical outfits are necessary for seemingly 99% of the time they spend fishing.

Perhaps you could enlighten me?
 
Clive Kenyon said:
I have asked them Simon. And none of them can give an explanation as to why three identical outfits are necessary for seemingly 99% of the time they spend fishing.

Perhaps you could enlighten me?
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You really are quite sad if the needs, wants or actions of others bother you so much. For the record, the old rod licence had a 3 rod limit, hence the three rod trend, these days you have to buy two and that allows the use of 4 rods max, many waters however put a three rid limit on to keep conflicts down, some have a two rod limit. For me, if I have to look at my set up for many hours/days on end then it will really annoy me if it does not look good and symmetrical. To this end I will even level my buzz bars with a spirit level but this may be a little OCD, from a practical point of view, woken by a screaming run in the middle of the night, it is far easier if all rods and reels function the same. I am no better when Barbel fishing, some of my friends though fish with wooden sticks and hamster wheels by I love them just as much, Grow up!!!!
 
Enjoy your fishing the way you want. I just don't understand why people get hot enough to slag other peoples fishing, it just shows ignorance and plain bad spirit.

btw


How about this then. Fishing with cammo trousers, Carp (margin) fishing with Barder rod and Witcher pin. Watching the tip and the scream of the ratchet.
Great fun. Next time I might break out the Torrix's and fish 3 rods at range with big pit reels, great fun too.

:)
 
Ian Crook said:
You really are quite sad if the needs, wants or actions of others bother you so much. For the record, the old rod licence had a 3 rod limit, hence the three rod trend, these days you have to buy two and that allows the use of 4 rods max, many waters however put a three rid limit on to keep conflicts down, some have a two rod limit. QUOTE]

Thanks Crooky, I don't like to state the bleedin' obvious too often. :)

Most carp set-ups in recent times (pods & components + alarms) are designed for 3 rods (for club rules on the majority of UK stillwater venues) and peeps like to maximise their chances where they're allowed to.

They also tend to stick to brands they like and have confidence in. Who doesn't?

If you look closer Clive, you may find the test-curves differ (e.g. if one rod is near-margin), you may find the rigs are different (you wouldn't necessarily see that critical part at a casual glance ;)) but why should anything else be different? Especially on larger venues?
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Ok Shaun. I own up. I superimposed a handsome young mans face and body onto my fish.

I have just done this one for you as well.

barbelespana.jpg
 
Graham Elliott said:
Ok Shaun. I own up. I superimposed a handsome young mans face and body onto my fish.

I have just done this one for you as well.

barbelespana.jpg
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There you go, perfectly cammo'd torso against the skyline. Day or night, disruptive pattern.

With a nice sliver cloud on top. :D


Is that a carbarpable?
 
Si.

The tan strides were a bit grubby. Sorry I had to wear these. Not quite in keeping with the bank colour . ;)

Barbus Commun (or similar) no carp were harmed in the making of this picture.


Graham
 
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Ah but....you have a different seat in the second picture....just how much gear did you take Graham :p

By the way, if you got away with calling that bag/seat in the first picture 'hand baggage', I assume you must have used Easyjet :D

They really are lovely lean, wild looking fish aren't they?....looks like an awful lot of fun fella. You really must stop enjoying yourself so much....you are supposed to be fishing for goodness sake ;)

Cheers, Dave.
 
Morning Dave.

British Airways. Easyjet..no chance.

Thats Dave's (Dodger) chair upstream . He crept along the bank near to my bagging swim bit by bit.

They certainly are long and lean and very hard fighting and never seen a hook before.

First instalment of Barbarpping sent to Andy.

Graham
 
Simon King said:
You are, of course, correct Craig.

Barbel are the poor angler's carp in that respect, but don't expect the wannabe Luddites to acknowledge their angling hand-me-downs.

I'd make the buggers all fish free-lined worm for a season. Then we'd see who's "got it" and who hasn't. :rolleyes:
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Couldent of put it better simon..:D

Neil,

I think if you look at earlier comments on this thread you will find reference to carp anglers drinking cans of lager and smoking pot..

What do you think most big barbel are caught on Neil?..Perhaps HNV baits, normal boilies oh and lets not forget hair rigs..If you know of ANY other successful methods that REGUARLY catch big Barbel, then please enlighten us all Neil..Or you could carry on denying that the early carp fisherman didnt have ANY impact on the big fish scene as we all know it..;)
 
Clive Kenyon queried:
I have asked them Simon. And none of them can give an explanation as to why three identical outfits are necessary for seemingly 99% of the time they spend fishing.

Perhaps you could enlighten me?
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It makes angling sense when dealing with specimen sized fish to have identical outfits. That way, when playing a fish, you know exactly how the rod behaves under pressure, you will have a feel for the clutch (if you're not backwinding) when a 30 pounder heads off into the distance (this is the theory...I've never caught one!) and as has been mentioned, they do look pretty. You don't see tennis players switching to a different make of racket during a match, but you do see them carrying numerous identical ones in case a string breaks.

Not a perfect argument , but a reasonable justification?
 
One of the more sensible posts so far Anthony, in my opinion. Fact is, there are lots of sensible and valid reasons such as those that we could use to validate the 'Three identical rods syndrome' (should we feel the need :p) without even mentioning the 'bling' and 'must have' factor....though in my opinion those are equally reasonable. Surely, if that is what turns a person on, and they are not interfering with anyone else...why the heck not? What business is that of anyone else?

I guess it is only human nature to mock the ways of other anglers, other folk in general in fact, to want to feel superior. It's all part of our inbred tribal origins. We have this fuss that we are discussing now popping up regularly, plus the astonishing hullabaloo that ensues whenever the subject of camouflage clothing comes up, the references to fly fishermen as 'fluff chuckers' , to carp as 'mud pigs' and so on....and on....an....zzzzzzz. That's fine while it sticks at gently poking fun at friends, a bit of banter....we all do that. However, I do find it a little sad when folk start taking it....and themselves...too serious :D

Live and let live....it's only fishing. Besides, it soon becomes obvious how daft it all is if you consider that as fast as you are taking the pee out of someone, there is undoubtedly someone else taking the pee out of you...and their logic for doing so would be just as valid as your own....at least in their eyes :eek:

That's only my take on this of course...no doubt some will find it preposterous, in fact almost as bad as wearing camo or fishing for mud pigs....and don't even mention fluff chucking for mud pigs :eek:.... :D:D

Cheers, Dave.
 
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Sorry guys, I don't buy these reasons for the tri-tackle obsession.

Specified number of rods on the licence? Would they have ten identical outfits if that had been the specified number? All the tackle is geared up to three rod sessions? Cart before the horse comes to mind :D
And as for the identical outfits performing identically? That is someone desperate to justify the decision to buy three identical outfits :D When I was at Currys sales school and again in the car trade they used to say that there were features and benefits to every product. Features were what you wanted. Benefits were what you needed. But, it was features that sold time after time, and that's a features argument if I've ever heard one. If you can't pick up one of your own rods and reels and not know how it performs then there is no hope for you. :p

I reckon its down to fashion. Three rods are the uniform of a 'dedicated' carp angler, along with the camo'd sleeping bag inside the camo'd bivvy, 150 yds from where the bait is. :D
 
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