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Cant believe Adam with drew his posts , was it forced or did he do it himself ?
 
Whats to do Adam...you know the river better than most and if you say it a wrong 'un thats good enough for me.
 
circus

the problem with barbel fishing at the moment is it's becoming like the carp scene which as been ruined by the chav's who have no decorum.
i know plenty of good carp angler's who have moved onto the river's because the tranquility of the carp water's as gone.
they've tried to seek this by going onto the river's but the chav's have just followed.
going off this last report of the joke river record(my opinion and im entitled to it) you've got a young lad probably in his trackies holding a special fish(12-13lb)
reading through the thread his picture give's the location away and this will bring the circus(but reading about the litter etc which im sure won't become any better he's probably part of the circus)
this is where us secret squirrel's thrive you see;)
for a moment's fame you will sell your soul and spoil your fellow angler's tranquility etc.
shove the pallatrax hook's and sponsorship's with bait company's up your backside's:eek:

the way i prefer to fish is on stretches of river away from the crowd's(lucky boy) i catch a few fish eat my pie's and take my litter home with me:D
no crime's committed and just enjoying my fishing and guess what i don't care what other anglers think because i don't crave kudos.
if i was to misweigh a fish i wouldn't be ridiculed like this poor lad but on the otherhand he brought it upon himself.
why would'nt i be ridiculed?
because you lot would'nt see it;)
 
The only people that bring the circus down are the people discussing it on here, not the guy in the picture. The only people capable of identifying "that spot" are the ones who have already been there - presumably already fishing it, if they can comment on the average size of fish caught there.
So if everyone really cared about protecting their fishing (and kept quiet or used the PM function) ahead of publicly chastising someone for lying about their fish, there wouldn't be a problem really. Is that not the case? :confused:
Or is the "circus" patrolling en masse every stretch of river in the UK, in the hope that when a big fish is caught and photographed they may just be able to identify the spot from the tree line in the background - worrying thoughts.
This is not an attack on those who have contributed their local knowledge (And probably done the right thing in telling everyone that the RR is in debate), I just find it funny that people think a photo equates to a post code.
 
It's a belting fish, looks every ounce of anything up to 13lbs to me, but this is a fish that by fact was caught at 10lbs less than 2 months before. I think it's just such a shame to have a new record, one which has stood for so long and on a river that is so popular at present, that stands when it's surrounded by so much obvious doubt.

Re previous comments and over on Wye reports, I should never have opened my mouth and just thought what everyone else is thinking rather than saying it.

The fish is not from the Biblins but not far away - whilst on that subject I've heard a whisper that Glamorgan Anglers have lost the lease for 2013/14?
 
Adam. I hope your lot haven't stole another stretch of a club. But if they have them they've only got themselves to blame.
 
WUF don't steal stretches Mark, the owners of the fisheries ask them to sell day tickets for them as they can generate more income for their fishery than leasing to a club, whilst knowing exactly who's there each day and sustaining the quality of their fishing. Also by paying a small commission to WUF from the day ticket sales they have piece of mind that some of the income is going back into the river somewhere. I still speak to people who think that WUF own all the stretches of river they sell day tickets for and that they keep all the revenue!! Lol
 
I feel a bit sorry for this lad, he has caught what to him is a fish of a lifetime and in his enthusiasm has made a mistake with the weight (probably by not subtracting the weight of the sling/net).
He has then submitted the pictures for scrutiny by a self appointed record keeper.
Now I actually know Dave Mason and would have in the past would have trusted his judgement and research impeccably. However, we are all aware that Dave is recovering from a very serious illness and is not his former tireless self, his assistant, Rob is well meaning and motivated but compared to Dave totally inexperienced.
I think this is where this mistake has occurred and the record keepers should look at this fish in light of the new anecdotal evidence from former captors and downgrade it from river record to notable capture.
Not to do so will imo throw doubt on the whole river record system and will put us back to where we were before Brian Dowling started keeping them 15+ years ago.
 
Hi men ,


The situation is hard , and in my mind its the witnesses that are the key . Tha captor can miss-weigh a fish , but to do so with witness there , and their statements that it weighs what the captor says is crucial . To aid the claim good photots are required , and they are good . So , good pics , the captor says it weighs X lb , and the witnesses say the see it weighed X lb , what can you do ?. I know Dave thought long and hard on this , and Rob helps only with phone calls until Daves speech improves .


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To show the problem . This wye fish from the autumn was caught as two anglers walked behind the swim . As i laid it on the mat one of the commented " about 11lb " , the other said "yes , not far off " . It weighed 9lb .These two fellas had all the gear , and were obviously targeting barbel , and could easily have walked off thinking that I had caught a double . Their estimate was out by over 2lb , add that 2lb to a fish that comes out over 12lb , and there is the problem .

Hatter
 
It would be nice if Rob could comment on this. Just out of interest. I wonder what would happen if this fish is caught again before the end of the season at a much lower weight?
 
John Charlton said:
the problem with barbel fishing at the moment is it's becoming like the carp scene which as been ruined by the chav's who have no decorum. Exactly the reason I moved from carping
i know plenty of good carp angler's who have moved onto the river's because the tranquility of the carp water's as gone. Again one of the reasons I lost interest
they've tried to seek this by going onto the river's but the chav's have just followed. Yep, a problem
going off this last report of the joke river record(my opinion and im entitled to it) you've got a young lad probably in his trackies holding a special fish(12-13lb)
reading through the thread his picture give's the location away and this will bring the circus(but reading about the litter etc which im sure won't become any better he's probably part of the circus)
this is where us secret squirrel's thrive you see;)
for a moment's fame you will sell your soul and spoil your fellow angler's tranquility etc.
shove the pallatrax hook's and sponsorship's with bait company's up your backside's:eek:

the way i prefer to fish is on stretches of river away from the crowd's(lucky boy) i catch a few fish eat my pie's and take my litter home with me:D
no crime's committed and just enjoying my fishing and guess what i don't care what other anglers think because i don't crave kudos.
if i was to misweigh a fish i wouldn't be ridiculed like this poor lad but on the otherhand he brought it upon himself.
why would'nt i be ridiculed?
because you lot would'nt see it;)Exactly the way I feel
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It is a sad state of affairs but I for one will keep catches to myself, not because I am a secret squirrel brought up through the dark ages of carp fishing, (I was a lad when the hair rig hit the scene), but because I treasure the fishing I have and the fish I catch. For those that are inexperienced in hiding locations you have my sympathies.
I am afraid barbel fishing is going the same way as carping did, they can buy the tackle, the tickets and they fish,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, catch F**K all, wreak havoc with litter and before you know it those tranquil places are trashed.
But there is one thing for sure guys, the chap you see when you have walked miles to get to your chosen swim will be one like you, a proper angler !

I can remember a similar situation on the Gt.Ouse some years back, it was in its peak years and a guy had an 18lb fish, publicised it, up turned the circus, and he was ridiculed, left angling for good, I still keep in contact with him via Facebook so I know this to be true.

Makes my blood boil,,,,,,,,,,,,,:mad:
 
On behalf of Dave Mason.

Dear members
Would those anglers who have any supporting evidence or background knowledge to the claimed Wye Barbel please foward your info and pictures including relevant markings or features of the fish to either Andy frances or Dave mason at temeguide@gmail.com
As new information has recently come to light it is therefore only right that this claim be re investigated.

Many thanks chaps

Rob
 
It is not my theory by any means but,

If the fingers on a pose,
Won’t go up his nose.
An attempted flout
The weights in doubt.
 
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