DV Elite 1.5lb from the Tackle Box

[Mark Evans 2]

Hi guys,

After my last post about the Korum Omega rods I've decided to stay clear of their stuff now and budget isn't going to stretch to a Torrix so I've now got my sights set on the DV Elite in 1.5lb from the Tackle Box as chub and light Barbel rod.

Anyone have any of the Elite range? Just wondering what the action is like and your opinion on them. I've had a few of their rods from the standard DV range and was impressed for the price. I'd guess and hope the higher priced blanks are noticeably crisper in use and maybe a bit more tippy over the cheaper range?

I get it might be a little expensive compared to say the FS Tamer rod in the same TC considering you get the quiver section too with the FS but I'm just drawn the the DV rod.

Chub fishing with straight Avon rods? I've only ever used quivers so how would I likely get on? But seeing the vicious bites from Chub on a 1.75 rod I'm guessing it's a none issue?

Thanks guys

 

[Huanzhou Zhu]

I can’t really comment on the rods since I never saw one, but I fish chub with Avon top a lot so here’s few things.

I have seen vicious bites, but that normally happened when chub is already hooked, more common is very shy bites, the tip is hardy moving, I even had very tiny bites on 0.5oz quiver tip. Chub is extremely good at ejecting bait, especially the big ones, so to maximise your chance with Avon top, you can try hair rig the bait, use large bait, and touch ledgerin.

 

[Christian Tyroll]

Hi guys,

After my last post about the Korum Omega rods I've decided to stay clear of their stuff now and budget isn't going to stretch to a Torrix so I've now got my sights set on the DV Elite in 1.5lb from the Tackle Box as chub and light Barbel rod.

Anyone have any of the Elite range? Just wondering what the action is like and your opinion on them. I've had a few of their rods from the standard DV range and was impressed for the price. I'd guess and hope the higher priced blanks are noticeably crisper in use and maybe a bit more tippy over the cheaper range?

I get it might be a little expensive compared to say the FS Tamer rod in the same TC considering you get the quiver section too with the FS but I'm just drawn the the DV rod.

Chub fishing with straight Avon rods? I've only ever used quivers so how would I likely get on? But seeing the vicious bites from Chub on a 1.75 rod I'm guessing it's a none issue?

Thanks guys

Hi Mark

I haven't used the rod but one way to look at the comparison with another rod that has an additional section is that, for the price you could assume that the DV has had more money put in to the blank. Just a thought, as whether that's true or not I don't know.

 

[Christian Tyroll]

Another thought on the quiver section. You could fish for chub all the time without one, 2oz lead, bolt rig and hair rigged bait, which can be ruthlessly effective. Although, if you want to use a maggot feeder or light ledgering with bread or something then you will miss a lot of bites if not using a quiver tip. I've caught some nice chub with them hanging themselves on a bolt rig but don't look back on them which as much satisfaction as the ones where I actually had to hit the bite. Personally one of the things I find alluring about chub is the way they can feed and trying to work out what is going on down there, which you miss out on a fair bit with an avon top.

 

[Mark Evans 2]

Hmm, gave me something to think about.

All my Chub have come on semi fixed (bolt and run) and running rigs with bigger leads or feeders with hair rigged baits while barbel fishing. I've yet to actually fish for chub specifically and have a barbel as a result.

 

[John Newman]

For an all year round chub rod I would buy a rod that offers a quiver top. I rarely use the avon section as I prefer the sensitivity of a quiver tip especially in winter when bites are fewer and can be finicky. Most of my chub fishing is in winter so my choices are dictated by fishing in cold weather.

My current selection of rods (all twin tips) are:
1. Rovex/Masterline John Wilson 11/13ft Avon Quiver Model No AQ1102 1.25lb TC.
I only ever use it at 11ft becasue I like to have my rods set up ready to use and as the extension piece has a rod ring on there is no option to change without tackling down and threading the line again. These rods were supplied with three glass quivers of different test curves but in reality the difference between them is hardly noticable. I like glass quiers as I believe they are more sensitive and offer less resitance when a fish takes the bait. Although this version is no longer made Angling Direct launched a new version a while back. The info on the website does not specify whether the quiver tips are glass or carbon.

2. Drennan Twin Tip Duo 12ft 1.25lb TC
This is the rod I had my PB chub on at 6lbs 14oz (hoping for a 7 one day!) It comes with a 2oz glass and a 3oz carbon tip, but, and this is a big plus for Drennan rods spare tips are available and there are 7 glass tips from 0.5oz to 4oz. I bought a 1.5oz version as an extra and is probably my "go to" tip especially in slower flows. I am not struck on the action of the rod as it to my mind is a bit to much of an "all through" action. Also available at 11ft and in 1lb and 1.5lb TC. https://www.drennantackle.com/products/rods/specialist-rods/specialist-12ft-twin-tip-duo-1-25/

3. Cadence CR10 Specimen 12 ft1lb TC
When I looked at these rods I felt they had a more crisp action with more low down power so elected for the 1lb rather than 1.25lb TC. It came with tqo quiver tips 2 and 3oz carbon. I would have preferred a glass quiver for this rod but they are not offered, unfortunately. This rod has a very pleasing action and the fittings used are top quality although I am not totally sold on the bronze painted finish and would have preferred a plain black carbon finish. Again these rods are available in different lengths and test curves. I bought mine as a combo deal with a Cadence CS10 4000 size reel and I notice this offer is back on again with a saving of £100. https://www.cadencefishing.co.uk/product/cadence-cr10-specimen-rod-cs10-4000-reel-package/

This is what works best for me on my local rivers Nene and Welland but as stated earlier my chub fishing is mostly winter and I tend to avoid high/coloured water conditions. Because these rivers are relatively slow flowing I mostly link leger and when used, my feeders, will be 20 or 30 gram hence my preference for glass tips. If I had the need to use larger feeders and leads then I might be more weighted towards carbon tips which do show drop back bites better as they spring back more noticably.

 

[Neil Smart]

Small hooks down to # 18 are brilliant for providing a good hook hold for Chub, and they always hook in the scissors. Of course the problem is smaller species, so better in the winter months I guess.
Contrary to belief in low clear rivers I am finding worm to be a great Chub bait, they have seen pellet boilie meat etc but can't resist a juicy worm.
Of course undercut banks and reed margins, overhanging trees are made for freelining a 'lob' , just a fantastic way to fish.
A glass quiver tip on an Avon rod is the tool.

 

[Andrew Jackson]

Hi guys,

After my last post about the Korum Omega rods I've decided to stay clear of their stuff now and budget isn't going to stretch to a Torrix so I've now got my sights set on the DV Elite in 1.5lb from the Tackle Box as chub and light Barbel rod.

Anyone have any of the Elite range? Just wondering what the action is like and your opinion on them. I've had a few of their rods from the standard DV range and was impressed for the price. I'd guess and hope the higher priced blanks are noticeably crisper in use and maybe a bit more tippy over the cheaper range?

I get it might be a little expensive compared to say the FS Tamer rod in the same TC considering you get the quiver section too with the FS but I'm just drawn the the DV rod.

Chub fishing with straight Avon rods? I've only ever used quivers so how would I likely get on? But seeing the vicious bites from Chub on a 1.75 rod I'm guessing it's a none issue?

Thanks guys

Hi Mark. Can't comment on the rods but I'll tell you what I do on the Avon. It's a fast river and most of it isn't really suited to a quiver tip though I've used it in some of the slacker swims. I suppose what I do is half a bolt rig but I do like a bit of given in the set up. I prefer a lead on a link swivel pushed on to a tail rubber that's pushed over the swivel. The lead is usually between 2 - 3 oz. I usually use a hook link of somewhere between 2 1/2 and 3 feet. I prefer this set-up to the short hooklink, inline lead and backlead which is an out and out bolt rig. It is my belief you miss more bites from big Chub that way but many won't agree no doubt! The bait is on a short hair. Many of the bites are quite subtle, not the screamers you get with the inline fixed lead setup and I have no trouble seeing them and striking in the usual way with an ordinary 1 1/2 - 1 3/4lb rod tip. I've had plenty of Chub and Barbel fishing this way. Doubtless you could touch leger with a lighter lead but if you fish with a hair you'll still be self hooking some of the bites. I don't think the traditional way of watching the rod tip with the hook in the bait would catch you as many on a fast river but no doubt if you fish with a balanced lead set up and fish for drop backs that would work.

 

[Mark Evans 2]

Hi Mark. Can't comment on the rods but I'll tell you what I do on the Avon. It's a fast river and most of it isn't really suited to a quiver tip though I've used it in some of the slacker swims. I suppose what I do is half a bolt rig but I do like a bit of given in the set up. I prefer a lead on a link swivel pushed on to a tail rubber that's pushed over the swivel. The lead is usually between 2 - 3 oz. I usually use a hook link of somewhere between 2 1/2 and 3 feet. I prefer this set-up to the short hooklink, inline lead and backlead which is an out and out bolt rig. It is my belief you miss more bites from big Chub that way but many won't agree no doubt! The bait is on a short hair. Many of the bites are quite subtle, not the screamers you get with the inline fixed lead setup and I have no trouble seeing them and striking in the usual way with an ordinary 1 1/2 - 1 3/4lb rod tip. I've had plenty of Chub and Barbel fishing this way. Doubtless you could touch leger with a lighter lead but if you fish with a hair you'll still be self hooking some of the bites. I don't think the traditional way of watching the rod tip with the hook in the bait would catch you as many on a fast river but no doubt if you fish with a balanced lead set up and fish for drop backs that would work.

I've used that tail rubber set up myself to create the semi fixed rig you describe, I dislike the bolt and run kit from Korum and saw the rig you describe on YT and switched over to it. I think I might go ahead and get the rod in question from the tackle box as my chub and light barbel rod and see how I get on. The bites from chub on my 1.75 barbel rod are obviously very fast but quite savage and even though many are missed I've still hooked up to quite a few and have caught many more chub than barbel on that outfit so hopefully I won't have any issues with the lighter TB rod.

 

[Andrew Jackson]

I've used that tail rubber set up myself to create the semi fixed rig you describe, I dislike the bolt and run kit from Korum and saw the rig you describe on YT and switched over to it. I think I might go ahead and get the rod in question from the tackle box as my chub and light barbel rod and see how I get on. The bites from chub on my 1.75 barbel rod are obviously very fast but quite savage and even though many are missed I've still hooked up to quite a few and have caught many more chub than barbel on that outfit so hopefully I won't have any issues with the lighter TB rod.

Wasn't aware it had been on YouTube. So much for me thinking it was my set up! Nothing is original though is it . Someone, somewhere will have thought the same. No. I don't like the Korum bolt and run.
I caught a 7 plus Chub the other week where the bite was quite gentle. It just nodded and pulled down a little As I said before, I get lots of bites where it is far from the type of bite you would expect with an out and out bolt rig. As long as you're sitting near your rod and concentrating, these can be struck as normal. Some may develop into a screaming take but I will always strike as soon as I'm confident it's a bite. Big Chub are good at getting away with it, even on a bolt rig aren't they?!
Barbel are a different matter. The last thing you want to be doing is striking at knocks. You'll spook them! You get to learn to tell a line bite though don't you .

 

[Andrew Jackson]

Wasn't aware it had been on YouTube. So much for me thinking it was my set up! Nothing is original though is it . Someone, somewhere will have thought the same. No. I don't like the Korum bolt and run.
I caught a 7 plus Chub the other week where the bite was quite gentle. It just nodded and pulled down a little As I said before, I get lots of bites where it is far from the type of bite you would expect with an out and out bolt rig. As long as you're sitting near your rod and concentrating, these can be struck as normal. Some may develop into a screaming take but I will always strike as soon as I'm confident it's a bite. Big Chub are good at getting away with it, even on a bolt rig aren't they?!
Barbel are a different matter. The last thing you want to be doing is striking at knocks. You'll spook them! You get to learn to tell a line bite though don't you .

By the way, I use a 1.75 rod but it does have a very fine tip, finer than my 1.6lb S/U Avon infact. I think another reason the bites I get aren't all that violent and fast many times is the long hooklink. It takes away much of the bolt effect. Sone people don't like long hooklinks worrying the fish will get away with it before you see the bite but they work well for me.

 

[Mark Evans 2]

Wasn't aware it had been on YouTube. So much for me thinking it was my set up! Nothing is original though is it . Someone, somewhere will have thought the same. No. I don't like the Korum bolt and run.
I caught a 7 plus Chub the other week where the bite was quite gentle. It just nodded and pulled down a little As I said before, I get lots of bites where it is far from the type of bite you would expect with an out and out bolt rig. As long as you're sitting near your rod and concentrating, these can be struck as normal. Some may develop into a screaming take but I will always strike as soon as I'm confident it's a bite. Big Chub are good at getting away with it, even on a bolt rig aren't they?!
Barbel are a different matter. The last thing you want to be doing is striking at knocks. You'll spook them! You get to learn to tell a line bite though don't you .

I think it was a carp angler, Matthew Collins where I saw it, run ring pushes down onto the tail rubber if it's the same rig. I don't get that many Barbel out the W.Avon to worry about spooking them

I had a play with the Drennan TT duo in 11ft 1.5lb, very nice light blank, if it were a bit more tippy it would be absolutely perfect!

More shopping around and I think my best option for off the shelf is now the FS Tamer series in 11ft 1.5lb. I'll have to live with the action and it looks better with no paint to chip off and I suppose I'll have the quiver section too if I ever felt like I needed it.

 

[Andrew Jackson]

I think it was a carp angler, Matthew Collins where I saw it, run ring pushes down onto the tail rubber if it's the same rig. I don't get that many Barbel out the W.Avon to worry about spooking them

I had a play with the Drennan TT duo in 11ft 1.5lb, very nice light blank, if it were a bit more tippy it would be absolutely perfect!

More shopping around and I think my best option for off the shelf is now the FS Tamer series in 11ft 1.5lb. I'll have to live with the action and it looks better with no paint to chip off and I suppose I'll have the quiver section too if I ever felt like I needed it.

Yes that's what I do. Run ring pushed onto the tail rubber. No. I don't get many on the Avon either. It's why I have adapted my rigs to be better suited to the excellent Chub but at the same time being effective for Barbel as well. I use the same rig on the Severn when I'm out and out Barbel fishing.