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bags or mesh on severn

Ben, form an orderly queue and make me a good offer via PM and I'll do you a days tutoring, but "king of the Severn" is a bit of an over statement.
I like many others, just don't find the river especially challenging.;)
 
Adrian Williams said:
I would like to remind anyone thinking the feeder is a small fish method that the Dove record fell to simple feeder tactics and was no fluke.
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Aww come on Ade! There's no small barbel in the Dove!:D

Where as its true big barbel will be caught on the feeder, as Jez points out its not selective in sorting out the bigger fish, particularly on the middle Severn, which as Colin says, contains an high amount of smaller barbel.
 
Colin Gordon said:
Ben, form an orderly queue and make me a good offer via PM and I'll do you a days tutoring, but "king of the Severn" is a bit of an over statement.
I like many others, just don't find the river especially challenging.;)
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Have you fished the Lower (Below Worcester?)
Edit..premature send button.

If you havn't the challenge is a good one, whole miles of deserted banks, but for me it's mind numbingly boring and I now take a float rod and have a bit of fun with the Hybrids, and allocate the last two hours or so staring at a motionless tip (normally)...I suppose I could fish a two or three rod set up c/w with Delkims, but that would be just giving in and besides I would feel dirty.
I never actually fish with any confidence on the Lwr Severn though, in the 7 years I have been here I have failed miserably, with only a handful of fish and best circa 11lb from Tewkesbury. Thank goodness for the Avon where I have fared a bit better.
So Colin this could be just the challenge you need.
 
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Sorry to be a bore (bin a while since I logged on) but to return to the original thread, I'm amazed it took til page 4 before someone mentioned threading the bag onto the hooklength! Personally I use a long stringer needle to thread my hooklenth through a mesh bag, (thus preventing the hook from snagging on the drop) and as a connector use a Gemini Quick link in the smallest size at the end of my main line, which I mask with a Korda dubri ferg????? tube (technical term coz I can't remember the proper name). This works for both In line and Link ledger set up's.

When it's weedy (eg summer), a short hooklength through an inline lead presented as mentioned is a killer! The key to it though is the lead must be heavy enough to drag the hooklength in it's bag through the Renunculas/Streamer Weed, and you must fish a slack line so that the movement of the weed does not move the lead and bait.
 
Rhys Perry said:
Aww come on Ade! There's no small barbel in the Dove!:D

Where as its true big barbel will be caught on the feeder, as Jez points out its not selective in sorting out the bigger fish, particularly on the middle Severn, which as Colin says, contains an high amount of smaller barbel.
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It's all relative, on the Dove you're trying to avoid those little eleven and twelve pounders.
 
Richard Parsons said:
Blimey Adrian - I do hope you didn't waste too much of your day looking that one up? :rolleyes: And I do feel slightly insulted that you went to all that trouble to try and catch me out. Anyone would think I was a published writer.....
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Don't flatter yourself, I didn't waste any of my day and it was no trouble.
I came across that a couple of days ago while researching the Goyt and it stuck.
 
Adrian - I was flattered

If you want any info on the Goyt, pm me and I'll help if I can......
 
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A little compact mesh stick, with the hooklink passed through the bag and hook point inbeded in the base can never really hurt, in certain circumstances it may be unneccesary ,and may not help, but i fail to see any situations where it would be detrimental to your chances. And I feel alot of the time it aids presentation as an anti tangle, and anti hookpoint fouling mechanism, so aiding your consistancy even if the bait itself is uninfluential.
 
Neil Smart said:
Have you fished the Lower (Below Worcester?)
Edit..premature send button.

If you havn't the challenge is a good one, whole miles of deserted banks, but for me it's mind numbingly boring and I now take a float rod and have a bit of fun with the Hybrids, and allocate the last two hours or so staring at a motionless tip (normally)...I suppose I could fish a two or three rod set up c/w with Delkims, but that would be just giving in and besides I would feel dirty.
I never actually fish with any confidence on the Lwr Severn though, in the 7 years I have been here I have failed miserably, with only a handful of fish and best circa 11lb from Tewkesbury. Thank goodness for the Avon where I have fared a bit better.
So Colin this could be just the challenge you need.
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Thing is Neil, I much prefer small rivers, with the middle river being at the top end of the size scale. TBH the lower is in my eyes just so characterless.
If anything, I'd rather try my hand on the upper but the time, distance and cost are all rather off putting.
Maybe the Dove or Goyt this season, even the Warks Avon (it's about my closest barbel river outside of Oxon).
 
On the basis the 'Middle Severn' is classified as (roughly) Shrewsbury to Stourport, in between those two point how many fish with weights into teens have you caught or heard of, I'm guessing not many?!
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colin,
there are more doubles swimming around in this area than i think you realise
 
Neil Partridge said:
On the basis the 'Middle Severn' is classified as (roughly) Shrewsbury to Stourport, in between those two point how many fish with weights into teens have you caught or heard of, I'm guessing not many?!
(not my words, i just dont know how to do the reply with quote thingy)

colin,
there are more doubles swimming around in this area than i think you realise
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Am I questioning the numbers of 10lb+ barbel?
 
It's a good question Neil. Teens are rare as hens teeth in rocking horse poo on that part of the river. I have fished the middle on and off since I was a lad and regularly once a week (weather permitting) most weeks through the season for the last 25 years.
During that time I have only ever seen one fish which I know was a teen and that was one I had some years ago at 13'2 from Ironbridge; you probably know the swim;) The same fish was caught from the same area but a bit upstream at a claimed 14 lb by a pike angler on the last day of the following season, it then disappeared.
The only other one I have seen which comes close was from Buildwas and caught on a worm by one of the regular eel fishers.
I have seen plenty of 8's 9's and 10's claimed as 12's 13's and 14's (especially in the tackle and canoe hire shop in Ironbridge) but even Jez and Steve W who fish the river with 'big fish tactics' as often as anyone I know has still got to find a teen.
I consider myself to have been inordinately lucky.
 
Colin Gordon said:
Thing is Neil, I much prefer small rivers, with the middle river being at the top end of the size scale. TBH the lower is in my eyes just so characterless.
If anything, I'd rather try my hand on the upper but the time, distance and cost are all rather off putting.
Maybe the Dove or Goyt this season, even the Warks Avon (it's about my closest barbel river outside of Oxon).
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Lower Severn is so canalised it is for me impossible to enthuse ever the blandness, but in that blandness is also a challenge and I do appreciate that if you do catch here it is normally a good fish. I have had a pm to-day from a BFW member who as offered to help me with regard to the Lower, so maybe armed with my new knowledge I will be a Lower success story:)

The WA would seem to offer you the best available as far as actually catching on a fairly regular basis, but again this River can be bland, I look for weirs and locks and somewhere out of the way of those 'Gin Palaces' that intrude on the serenity all too often. Or as I do mostly fish into dark when the boat activity ceases.

But I do have my little bit of angling heaven where boats and Kyaks are never seen, and I can indulge in being 'lost' for a few hours in complete isolation. You are more than welcome to join me sometime.
 
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