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Abu 506M

Rhys Perry

Senior Member
Ok, so I've just bought one of these from ebay as everyone says they are the best, first closed face I've ever owned/used. I've heard about the rubbish drag but this seems really bad to me, unless you tighten it right up it slips as you reel in with any kind of weight on the line, which made playing a 4lb bream a nightmare.
Is the drag really that poor or is this faulty and needs some kind of service? Or am I better just taking the anti reverse pawl out?
 
I had three in my matchfishing days when i mainly fished for roach, the first thing i took out was the small copper and stainless antibackwind in the main body, so its a totally backwinding reel. someone should explain it better.
Then again for bigger fish it may be ok, but i never used it this way.
hope this helps.
 
Just take the pawl out Rhys, the drag has always been the biggest fault on these reels.
 
It was made for trotting for silvers for them that cannot master a decent pin so are you using it as its designer intended?
 
I was trotting for small stuff, though had more of a chance catching chub, certainly wasn't expecting a bream!
 
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I've taken the pawl out of mine and simply backwind. The drags a waste of time.

Must admit that I always thought the 506 was a spinning reel that the match fraternity adopted and the 506m was just a slightly tarted up version with a chenille trim on the slightly wider spool to stop the line getting up the back if the winding cup.
 
i can think of three causes of your drag failure.your reel maybe suffering from one or all of these.

1.your reel is in the 1/3 reduced drag mode ....remove wind shield/cowling grip winding cup and push the handle forwards & back into normal mode

2.the anti reverse pawl is missing & the drag cant be set properly ....take the side cover off ,stick a small flatblade screwdriver intoo the pinion gears teeth ,whilst holding this & the gears locked tighten the drag knob

3.the drag friction pad under the drive axil top is saturated with grease or oil (people have a nasty habit of packing the casing with grease or squirting oil inside willy-nilly and when the friction pad is contaminated it doesn't work and so the drag fails to work/set properly...this requires a strip down of the handle and partial gear stripdown to get too the drag washer /friction pad that sits between the drive axle and the main gear ,you'll need to de-grease it by washing/soaking it in white spirit/lighter fluid then drying out & you could stick it someware warm & dry or pop it into the oven or heat with a airdryer to draw out any leftover contaminents and dry it out .pop it back in ,after cleaning the main gear and only appling grease too the gears teeth & rebuild the reel.

or simply remove the anti-reverse pawl and lock the gears and tighten up fully the drag knob and forever more backwind.

the reels have two drags and they would work great independantly but together theyre counter productive .
 
Thanks Steven,
It's not point 2, I've had it apart and the anti reverse is fine. Could be point 3 as I've read this somewhere else, the whole of the inside was greased up good and proper, I just wiped everything but should really do the white spirit thing.
As for point 1 I'm confused! Like I say I've not used this reel before so not sure what you mean??
 
well first the friction disc

you can just see it here (the grayish gritty looking disc/washer )under the drive transfer top edge next too the brass gear teeth of the main gear

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the drag is called a syncro drag and has two modes of operation ,the first is a standard drag that works againt the friction pad/disc (a bit like a car disc brake) and is veriable via the sprung pressure from the adjuster built into the handle .which by itself if good but its syncro'd with the second drag ,this is single drop in drag pressure and relys on the anti-reverse pawl being fitted and you wind backwards against the anti reverse stop and the handle will go back a further 1/4 turn ,this reduces the set drag by 20% or so while in this mode .its undone by winding forwards again and your once more back on your pre set first drag ,again as a emergancy drag its good by its self but in conjunction with say a loow set first drag its awfull ,and if the first drag is set low the second drag doesn't always disengage meaning your stuck with the 20% reduction on top of a low first drag meaning ats always slipping.

most people just lock up the drag adjuster up tight so both drags don't work and whip out the pawl so they can backwind instead .
 
Ok, brilliant stuff, thanks again. I've noticed the handle turning slightly, to me just seems to be the shape of the hole cut into the handle, if that makes sense? I'll have a good look at it when I'm home tomorrow.
 
The 506 was designed by ABU as a spinning reel to be used on those lightweight single handed spinning rods originally favoured by continental and American anglers. It became very popular with match anglers (myself included) in the nineteen seventies and was used mainly for ‘fast-biting’ fish such as roach and dace. Standard fixed spool reels of the time relied on the bale arm flicking over to wind in the line – sometimes this didn’t happen smoothly and a lost coil of line would result in a momentary slackening of your line which on occasions would also result in lost fish. The main advantage of the 506 was that it had two line pick-ups which prevented this from happening. One of the disadvantages – as has already been mentioned – was that the clutch (operated by reversing the winding handle) was not suited to the use of fine lines, so most anglers removed the anti-reverse pawl and bigger fish could easily be played by back-winding. Line could also get under the spool and result in ‘cracking-off’ - ABU tried to cure this by introducing chenille trims to the spools of later models - although even this modification wasn’t entirely successful. The other annoying disadvantage of these reels was due to the very shallow spools – after playing a larger fish, line would ‘bed-in’ and the next cast required the angler to pull line off the spool especially when using lightly shotted float rigs. Reel design improved and on later fixed-spool reels, you could push the bale arm over manually – when this feature came about I stopped using my 506’s and all four of them eventually went on Ebay. Like all old items of fishing tackle, they are fun and nostalgic to use. However in my opinion, manufacturers such as Shimano and Daiwa have incorporated significant technological improvements and their products are subsequently superior to those of forty years ago.
 
Lord Roger, although that is all undoubtedly spot on, that last is almost heresy...you may well be burnt at the stake for that :D:D

Cheers, Dave.
 
Don't worry David - I was flaying myself with barbed wire as I wrote it!
Being a long-time angler I've very much enjoyed the evolution of fishing gear and count myself lucky to have been a hands-on user of many items of classic tackle. Does this now mean that you won't send the Witch Finder General to do nasty things to me?
 
The 506 was designed by ABU as a spinning reel to be used on those lightweight single handed spinning rods originally favoured by continental and American anglers. It became very popular with match anglers (myself included) in the nineteen seventies and was used mainly for ‘fast-biting’ fish such as roach and dace. Standard fixed spool reels of the time relied on the bale arm flicking over to wind in the line – sometimes this didn’t happen smoothly and a lost coil of line would result in a momentary slackening of your line which on occasions would also result in lost fish. The main advantage of the 506 was that it had two line pick-ups which prevented this from happening. One of the disadvantages – as has already been mentioned – was that the clutch (operated by reversing the winding handle) was not suited to the use of fine lines, so most anglers removed the anti-reverse pawl and bigger fish could easily be played by back-winding. Line could also get under the spool and result in ‘cracking-off’ - ABU tried to cure this by introducing chenille trims to the spools of later models - although even this modification wasn’t entirely successful. The other annoying disadvantage of these reels was due to the very shallow spools – after playing a larger fish, line would ‘bed-in’ and the next cast required the angler to pull line off the spool especially when using lightly shotted float rigs. Reel design improved and on later fixed-spool reels, you could push the bale arm over manually – when this feature came about I stopped using my 506’s and all four of them eventually went on Ebay. Like all old items of fishing tackle, they are fun and nostalgic to use. However in my opinion, manufacturers such as Shimano and Daiwa have incorporated significant technological improvements and their products are subsequently superior to those of forty years ago.
the main advantage of the 506 was that it had two line pick-ups
[/QUOTE] Are you sure, mine hasn't, it's got one.
 
It's so long since I used mine - but on second thoughts, I think you are right and I stand corrected. Didn't the winding cup (to which the pick-up is attached) have 2 holes in it so that 2 pick ups could be used?
 
Didn't the winding cup (to which the pick-up is attached) have 2 holes in it so that 2 pick ups could be used?

I suspect that common parts were used in the various models. My 505 has two holes in the winding cap but only one pick up pin is fitted. I've also got a couple of the 507 Mk2s. No common parts with the original 50* series, but they have the double pick ups.
 
Mine's got 2 holes but only 1 pin, did think one was missing to start off with but the internet said they only have one. The internet doesn't lie.

Surely the advantage of the close faced over a fix spool is the wind proofness and lack of tangles when letting line out?
 
2 holes, 1 pick up.
but anyway, even the new one i had in 80's used to squeak when winding, lol
I like em because you can strike on the handle.
 
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