Jim Gregory
Senior Member
Which guides?
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They are, so very light, but not as strong as metal I think.I thought they were carbon?
They’ll be much stronger than steel but far less ductile.They are, so very light, but not as strong as metal I think.
Yeah, that’s what I meant, your normal guides can bend, but this thing, if not look after correctly, will snap, take some force though.They’ll be much stronger than steel but far less ductile.
The warning is there because you won’t bend them you’ll shear them off but I reckon it will take some force
Correct it’s got none at all but it will flex a bit before permanent destructionCarbon isn't ductile at all!
I suppose we all did something wrong in the past.
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The guides are definitely lighter than normal ones, I weighed the first two sections of the 13ft rod I have, same weight as the acolyte specimen, but the wall of the blank is much thicker, I assume the ags guides saved a lot weight.To be fair, I wouldn't do any of those things to normal metal guides. I've had the original Air AGS match rods for a few years now. They aren't my favourites, so they've not been heavily used, but I've had no issues with the guides. The smaller rings are all a bit too low for my preference. Float rods look like tip rods because of them. Whilst I'm not prepared to strip the rod for proof, I'm not entirely convinced that they offer a huge weight saving over normal metal framed guides.
Given a choice between the AGS guides and the seemingly unobtainable Fuji Titanium match guides, I'd have the Fuji every time.
I have the 14' Supera match. Though it's a standard match rod it's a great rod imo. It will handle big Chub as well as fish like Grayling, Roach etc. I even had a 6lb plus Salmon on mine! ( kelt but fought like stink).I know nothing about these other than what I’ve read which sounds very interesting for us specimen river boys.
The supera has been about ages now and usually associated with pellet and carp waggler rods but to see something come out in sensible lengths with good casting and line ratings, it’s certainly got my attention to want to look at them further.
Good on you Preston it’s about time we had some other choices. I’d be very interested to hear if anyone gets their hands on one as to what They feel like.
Pricing suggests they should be very good as they ain’t cheap.
your 100% right regarding the reel seat and potentially the guides too but I think the guides would need and deserve more long term judgement to make a conclusion. They could be brilliant they could be awful.Thanks for that Richard, you should be a salesman !
Downsides of the rod for me in your "excellent description" are that reel seat, those guides, and then the softer tip.
The stiffer tip of the speci acolyte is one of the things I like about it as it helps me strike the hook home when trotting at distance.
There is always room for another rod though, so I look forward to hearing how you get on with one if you do take the plunge.
your 100% right regarding the reel seat and potentially the guides too but I think the guides would need and deserve more long term judgement to make a conclusion. They could be brilliant they could be awful.
Regarding the tip I’ve no doubt whatsoever you would absolutely love it. It’s a long way off the softness of a sphere river rods spliced tip, yet it’s not a million miles off the tip on the acolyte specimen which is relatively soft in itself.
Don’t forget you were a big fan of acolyte plus’es, sphere wagglers, normark avengers, and I’m sure many more slightly stepped up rods.
This will hit harder than any of those being a good lump stiffer through the blanks action.
I’m convinced the blank and the action would be super for your type of fishing Ian, It’s got some balls trust me, your not going to have any issues setting hooks… Saying that though I’ve ever known that issue with spliced tip rods either which have much softer tips.
I probably will when I find one at a price I want to payGo on then Rich, you get one first .