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Rod for grayling

Steven Knox said:
It looks like the 13ft waggler rod has the same casting weight. It's also described as more of an all round float rod, so possibly pretty similar.

Readily available there seems to be only be the preston or acolyte that's been suggested so far. There's a couple of new Daiwas I think would work well. I bought and returned the tournament-s in 13ft as the tip section bent to the left and the eyes were noticeably out of alignment .
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The quality of those made in the UK Daiwa rods is terrible. As you said, they have bent blanks, unaligned eyes, upside-down reel seats, and all sorts of stupid problems. I am curious to know how these rods passed the QA.

I would say give the acolyte specimen a try. Considering everything, this is the best option we have, IMO.

But if you are lucky to get a high end daiwa rod without any issues and on sale, they are top rods. I have a 15ft tournament rod, the last generation before the s, which is great for trotting; soft tip, stiff mid to butt section, handles small fish reasonably well and has the power if you hook a barbel.

I also have the air z match rod in 13ft. The weight may put most people off, but it actually weighs nothing when you hold it; all the weights are in the butt section, and the first two sections weigh the same as the 13ft acolyte specimen. The action is spot-on for trotting large floats in fast water. But it has a stupidly high price, and I would only buy it if it were at a huge discount.
 
Huanzhou Zhu said:
The quality of those made in the UK Daiwa rods is terrible. As you said, they have bent blanks, unaligned eyes, upside-down reel seats, and all sorts of stupid problems. I am curious to know how these rods passed the QA.

I would say give the acolyte specimen a try. Considering everything, this is the best option we have, IMO.

But if you are lucky to get a high end daiwa rod without any issues and on sale, they are top rods. I have a 15ft tournament rod, the last generation before the s, which is great for trotting; soft tip, stiff mid to butt section, handles small fish reasonably well and has the power if you hook a barbel.

I also have the air z match rod in 13ft. The weight may put most people off, but it actually weighs nothing when you hold it; all the weights are in the butt section, and the first two sections weigh the same as the 13ft acolyte specimen. The action is spot-on for trotting large floats in fast water. But it has a stupidly high price, and I would only buy it if it were at a huge discount.
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I’m a big daiwa rod fan boy but I also agree that the stuff coming out of Scotland nowadays can be built shoddy, more often than it should be.

I had 2 guides on the tip section of my tournament RSPF that were the wrong way round. Instead of getting smaller towards the tip I had a jump
back up a size mid section.

I don’t like folding hook keepers in particular but i especially dislike them when they don’t fold from being filled with epoxy.
V joints are also, always too tight and need rubbing in.
For a £400 uk made rod, you don’t expect anything but perfection
I doubt i will buy a brand new one nowadays
Too much like rolling the dice
Such a shame because wen they are right they are really awesome
 
Richard Isaacs said:
I’m a big daiwa rod fan boy but I also agree that the stuff coming out of Scotland nowadays can be built shoddy, more often than it should be.

I had 2 guides on the tip section of my tournament RSPF that were the wrong way round. Instead of getting smaller towards the tip I had a jump
back up a size mid section.

I don’t like folding hook keepers in particular but i especially dislike them when they don’t fold from being filled with epoxy.
V joints are also, always too tight and need rubbing in.
For a £400 uk made rod, you don’t expect anything but perfection
I doubt i will buy a brand new one nowadays
Too much like rolling the dice
Such a shame because wen they are right they are really awesome
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I agree, but the tight joint has nothing to do with v joints, it’s just another fault. I know this because I also own Japan made daiwa rods that’s also use v joint technology, the joints are perfect.
 
Huanzhou Zhu said:
I agree, but the tight joint has nothing to do with v joints, it’s just another fault. I know this because I also own Japan made daiwa rods that’s also use v joint technology, the joints are perfect.
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I know it’s a simple case of not grinding the spigot in properly
 
Richard Isaacs said:
I know it’s a simple case of not grinding the spigot in properly
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Yeah, super annoying. I really like those daiwa rods since they have really nice blanks, but the building quality or QA really put me off. I won’t buy new one again, it’s just like drawing lottery.
 
Huanzhou Zhu said:
The quality of those made in the UK Daiwa rods is terrible. As you said, they have bent blanks, unaligned eyes, upside-down reel seats, and all sorts of stupid problems. I am curious to know how these rods passed the QA.

I would say give the acolyte specimen a try. Considering everything, this is the best option we have, IMO.

But if you are lucky to get a high end daiwa rod without any issues and on sale, they are top rods. I have a 15ft tournament rod, the last generation before the s, which is great for trotting; soft tip, stiff mid to butt section, handles small fish reasonably well and has the power if you hook a barbel.

I also have the air z match rod in 13ft. The weight may put most people off, but it actually weighs nothing when you hold it; all the weights are in the butt section, and the first two sections weigh the same as the 13ft acolyte specimen. The action is spot-on for trotting large floats in fast water. But it has a stupidly high price, and I would only buy it if it were at a huge discount.
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After sending 2 daiwa rods back due to similar issues, I ended up just buying the acolyte specimen. It should compliment the plus I already have well for when the water is up or I'm fishing rivers known to hold larger fish.
 
Steven Knox said:
After sending 2 daiwa rods back due to similar issues, I ended up just buying the acolyte specimen. It should compliment the plus I already have well for when the water is up or I'm fishing rivers known to hold larger fish.
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Great choice
Without having a waggle it was either an Acolyte speccy or Conny pro power float.
I opted for the lighter accy and glad I did.
 
Michael Humberstone said:
Cadence ? possibly.
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I’ve flirted with idea of Cadence rods before, but can never quite bring myself to buy one. I think my reluctance may be something to do with the over exuberance of guys who use them. Call me Mr. Cynical, but they’re surely not that good. 😂
 
Alan Rose said:
I’ve flirted with idea of Cadence rods before, but can never quite bring myself to buy one. I think my reluctance may be something to do with the over exuberance of guys who use them. Call me Mr. Cynical, but they’re surely not that good. 😂
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I have borrowed a couple of their float rods for a weekend, didn't like them much. The RRP of a new longer one is not far off what you will pay for an Acolyte. They might make sense to me second hand perhaps if priced accordingly.
 
Steven Knox said:
What rods would you recommend for trotting for grayling?

It would mainly be used of faster flowing water (mainly scotland) with the chances of bigger fish in the 2lb to 3lb range.
I use an acolyte plus the now and like it but I'm looking for a back up rod or better rod if there is one available?

Ideally the browning sphere spliced tip in 13'6, but it seems hard to come by these days. So something easily available would be preferable.
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I bought a Preston Supera 14' and it's superb for Grayling. I made a short butt to convert it to a 12' first fishing parts of the Dorset Frome and am very pleased with it. It's great with small hooks and light lines but I beat a 6lb plus ( atleast) Salmon on it so it will handle powerful fish as well.
 
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