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Carp fishing Fluorocarbon mainline

Tommy Bee said:
Maxima mate -

Not a lot of people know this either but it's also a low stretch, very responsive line as well..
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Lower stretch = lower 'snap resistance'. That's not opinion, that's physics, mate.
N.b.. relatively expensive lines do not last on the market if they don't command/merit their cost. Seaguar Soft plus, formally known and sold for years as Grand Max Soft plus, has stood the test of time. If it wasn't so good, it wouldn't be still on the market. It's 'horses for courses' IMO (and yes, some people swear by, and reckon that, their Austin Allegro was the best car they ever owned 🤣)
 
It's low-ish stretch mate, although not marketed as such..

You aint gonna sell me on fluoro mate sorry, nobody will ever again - I don't trust it and will never go there!
 
Ps nah - higher quality and formulation/better materials/STRENGTH = more ''snap resistance'' - not just as basic as stretch factor -
Maxima in 12-18lb is used for decades by King Salmon ghillies for a very good reason -

They are serious fish in seriously rocky rivers, which laugh through their flash rookie punters 'invisible, super this, super that' fluoros they all bring with them after reading impressive sounding adverts on the tinterweb
 
Terry Simner said:
Lower stretch = lower 'snap resistance'. That's not opinion, that's physics, mate.
N.b.. relatively expensive lines do not last on the market if they don't command/merit their cost. Seaguar Soft plus, formally known and sold for years as Grand Max Soft plus, has stood the test of time. If it wasn't so good, it wouldn't be still on the market. It's 'horses for courses' IMO (and yes, some people swear by, and reckon that, their Austin Allegro was the best car they ever owned 🤣)
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I'm no physician, but I think that's 100 percent wrong.....
Surely something that stretches, and stretches and stretches and stretches and stretches and stretches and stretches and stretches and stretches.
I'm bored now.
Is less prone to snapping??.
Unless it's different when considering fishing lines.😃

Cue... Physician...
 
Tommy Bee said:
Ps nah - higher quality and formulation/better materials/STRENGTH = more ''snap resistance'' - not just as basic as stretch factor -
Maxima in 12-18lb is used for decades by King Salmon ghillies for a very good reason -

They are serious fish in seriously rocky rivers, which laugh through their flash rookie punters 'invisible, super this, super that' fluoros they all bring with them after reading impressive sounding adverts on the tinterweb
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God you write some garbage !

Maxima (green) is great line - for certain jobs. I’ve used it for chinook salmon leaders in 15 and 20lb and it’s great.

I also use Soft Plus Fluoro for certain jobs, notably saltwater fly tippets and it is excellent. I have never lost a fish on it through breakage and that includes 3 permit of over 30lb. And I have a reputation in certain saltwater circles for playing fish hard….If I used a Maxima tippet I wouldn’t have even hooked any of those incredible fish.

I’ve also used Fluoro mainlines to good effect in certain situations. Again no breakages and that includes carp to 40 lb plus from super hard, low stock venues.

Do you know what salmon anglers on the big Russian rivers used, pre- Ukraine ? Answer 35 lb Seaguar. Ano Fluoro that has its uses.
 
Don't be rude, and I'm not taking your bait too easily but -

You personally know the (?) 50K+ anglers on ''the big Russian rivers'' do ya 😅😂

If fluoro is so great then why do so many people hate it - the stuff about the King Salmon ghillies is 100% true, it's the same in Scotland they carry Maxima to bail out the punters endless fluoro leader issues

10- 12lb Maxima would have hooked and landed those fish easily, it is very low viz due to matt surface-
Amongst fluorocarbon's endless gimickry and persistent unreliability it can be much more high viz than nylon, when the light hits it at a certain angle it can light up like a shard of light and be very reflective
 
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Tommy Bee said:
Don't be rude, and I'm not taking your bait too easily but -

You personally know the (?) 50K+ anglers on ''the big Russian rivers'' do ya 😅😂

If fluoro is so great then why do so many people hate it - the stuff about the King Salmon ghillies is 100% true, it's the same in Scotland they carry Maxima to bail out the punters endless fluoro leader issues

10- 12lb Maxima would have hooked and landed those fish easily, it is very low viz due to matt surface-
Amongst fluorocarbon's endless gimickry and persistent unreliability it can be much more high viz than nylon, when the light hits it at a certain angle it can light up like a shard of light and be very reflective
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Have you ever been saltwater fly fishing in clear water ?

Have you ever been to salmon fish on the Yokanga or the Karlovka ?

Here’s another Fluoro success story for you - nymph fishing for reservoir trout. When Fluoro first came out the guys who used it won all the matches and kept their leader material a secret for a couple of years. It made THAT much difference.
 
Jim Gregory said:
After sleeping on it .
I've come to realize that my brain had been fried from reading too many other posts.
Thanks Tommy 😀
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Don't be cliquey - if you don't like my posts then hit ignore but don't be unsubtly deriding and cliquey -
I have masses of likes and doing well here - I don't care a jot if a small clique dislikes me

People with eccentricity and character always divide opinion but I would far rather be that than boring and normal follower type who says ''yes'' to the industry whenever it tells them something is good
 
Tim Marks said:
Have you ever been saltwater fly fishing in clear water ?

Have you ever been to salmon fish on the Yokanga or the Karlovka ?

Here’s another Fluoro success story for you - nymph fishing for reservoir trout. When Fluoro first came out the guys who used it won all the matches and kept their leader material a secret for a couple of years. It made THAT much difference.
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It's not your buiness but I have been fishing all over the World

You're not going to get me to like something which let me, the punters I was bailiffing and my mates down repeatedly-
- so I suggest you drop it

I am MORE THAN entitled to come onto a forum and express my dislike of something which let me down and wasted me money, and give my reasons
 
Tommy Bee said:
I will REALLY miss you to
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Tommy Bee said:
Don't be cliquey - if you don't like my posts then hit ignore but don't be unsubtly deriding and cliquey -
I have masses of likes and doing well here - I don't care a jot if a small clique dislikes me

People with eccentricity and character always divide opinion but I would far rather be that than boring and normal follower type who says ''yes'' to the industry whenever it tells them something is good
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Hi Tommy , I'm going nowhere, and I agree with you when you say you're posts are funny....
So I'll keep checking in as normal , and have a giggle as and when.

Btw . I'm about as far from cliquey as you ! Can get.
Jim...


Keep up the good work 👌....
 
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Just too keep the thread on line...
I too think as a mainline, mono if you're preference....
Or braid , are a better choice , even up to 60yrds, unless you are regularly cleaning it.
Hooklink wise,, I think it's a much more personal choice but again if you're prepared to give it a wipe every cast, it will perform as well as any given choices.
Scenario related of course..
 
My two penneth . . .

Flurocarbon mainlines def have their advantages; the primary benefits being weight / lack of stretch & abrasion resistance. The down sides are castability / coiling memory and maintenance . . .depending on the application the benefits may or may not outweigh the negatives. Have never heard of fluros simply 'snapping' . . .more likely poor knots which with fluro need to be crafted with care.

For Carp fishing Fluro mainlines have their place . . .for specialist applications perhaps not so much. I've used multiple brands over the years - Tigerline / Korda Kontour are both good products although perhaps maintenance heavy in the higher diameters, would say PB Ghost Dragonfly is the most user friendly but you pay for the privilege. . .

Ditched Fluro mainlines for Carp Fishing last season when PB released Hybron and its quite frankly been a revelation. . .although I miss the more 'direct' sensation of low stretch fluro its does everything else equally well if not better - sinks incredibly quickly (much easier for slack line fishing), is very abrasion resistant, casts much better in 0.40 than a 0.32 fluro, is limp and easy to spool up with / maintain and still has less stretch than mono. Some knots can pigtail if again, not tied well, however a palomar as the primary connection knot is fine.

Actually considering using 0.40 Hybron (over fluro) as a leader on my barbel rods next season as have switched to braided mainlines . . . .
 
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