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winter barbel behaviour

Andrew Elliot

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has anyone got any info they care to share ,looking at finding out there behaviour in winter, ie how much and how far theyll move and what times of the day what times they feed etc, anything really would be great

cheers
 
Bloodyhell mate:eek:, your asking something there are'nt you:eek: just finding them is a task n half:eek:eek: never mind how far they'll travel and what times they'll feed:eek: if you find out give us a shout;)
 
lol yeah bit broad but anything thatll help an article if there is any to help finding them and maximising chance of catching.
 
has anyone got any info they care to share ,looking at finding out there behaviour in winter, ie how much and how far theyll move and what times of the day what times they feed etc, anything really would be great

cheers

Hi mate not sure whether this applies to anyone else but I did very well fishing a local river before christmas bagging at least one barbel every session regardless of how long I was there. I found them towards the end of July I was catching right up until the end of the Christmas holidays then it started puzzling me when I started catching chub after for a few sessions which told me the barbel were no longer in the swim but I also thing the weather had a massive part to play in the disappearing of the barbel the river rises very quick and also drops very quick and even in the slightest flood I wasn't catching barbel I hav'nt been on the local for a bit but I'm determined to find them at some point, are they still there just very wise or have they moved it remains to be seen!!!
Thanks
 
Unless you have warm rising river conditions then the main difference I have found between cold and warm weather barbel is the feeding period. No telling when it may be and you may need to fish round the clock to find out. But it will usually be only a brief period due to the barbel needing less food in colder conditions. Probably maggot or caster would outfish pellets or boilies, at least in my experience, but others may have found the opposite. As in summer fishing, location is the key.
 
one thing i know in normal/low summer conditions barbel will hide in theire'homes' deep holes ,snags,undercover etc then venture out at dusk is this the same in winter?
 
You're right Andrew those are the places to look, also where you find those places with a steady but slow moving flow.
Finding them is the key and depending on the population present, in the area not every likley looking spot will have one present, and very few if the population is low anyway.
I've found the best way of loading the odds in your favour is to start a baiting campaign in the dying months of Autumn when they are still active, if you can pull them into an area and then hold them there, as the cold weather sets in, and all the more so if it gets bitterly cold they will stay and not move far as their metabolism drops, then as Alex says you need to find out when they feed, but if several are present, it's a good chance that at least one or two will be willing to feed whilst you're there, continueing to bait the swim is still a good idea, but in small amounts, and tiny amounts, if the weather is bitter and use a paste - or maggots. then whilst fishing, if you know they are there, or at least pretty sure they are, then maggots and casters are probably right at the top of bait choice, little parcels of ultra digestible protein, they wont ignore the opportunity of a meal like that. :p

Ian.
 
Below is an abstact from a paper written in 1996. Seasonal movements and behaviour of adult barbel Barbus barbus, a riverine cyprinid fish


1. To provide information on the movements and localized activity of barbel Barbus barbus (Cyprinidae) in a river containing potentially obstructing weirs, 31 adult barbel were radio-tracked in the River Nidd, a tributary of the Yorkshire Ouse, North East England between June 1993 and September 1994.

2. Barbel exhibited substantial movements, ranging from 2 to nearly 20 km. Four fish are known to have moved between the Nidd and the Ouse, demonstrating that at least a part of the barbel population utilize the Nidd and Ouse at different times of the year.

3. Range of upstream movement was restricted by the presence and nature of several weirs, including Skip Bridge flow-gauging weir. Low levels of spawning downstream of Skip Bridge weir appear to have been due to a lack of suitable spawning habitat.

4. Movements followed a seasonal pattern, with males and females migrating upstream in spring to spawn on gravel beds. Females moved downstream more quickly than males over the summer months. Both sexes moved downstream in autumn and winter. Day length and water temperature were the best predictors in relation to distance moved up the River Nidd. Descriptive models, relating movement to water temperature and day length, are provided.

5. For both sexes, localized activity varied greatly on both diel and seasonal scales, and was mainly associated with foraging. During summer there was typically a bimodal pattern of diel activity with peaks usually in early morning and late evening. In winter, mean daily activity was less than 20% of peak summer levels and fish were relatively dormant. In winter, diel activity patterns exhibited a single peak towards dusk. Mean daily activity levels for each month were linearly correlated with mean monthly water temperatures, even during the months where movement to and on the spawning sites occurred.

6. The importance of natural migrations and seasonal activity patterns for barbel, and likewise many other riverine cyprinids, has probably been underestimated for a wide variety of river systems. As major components of riverine fish communities, the importance of seasonal movements of mobile cyprinid species should be considered when constructing weirs and other obstructions. Greater consideration should be given to ways of mitigating effects of existing barriers to movement of non-salmonid species.

Jason
 
Water temperature and more importantly in my opinion trends (up or down) are critical now that winter seems to have arrived, eg if the water temp is 43f but has dropped from say 47f over a couple of days and therefore the trend is down the Barbel will normally be inactive and very difficult to temp into feeding. However if the water temp is 43f but was 39f 24hrs earlier and the trend up, then there is a fare chance of a Barbel. For location and baits I agree with Ian, at this time of year you cant beat either Maggot or Caster or if the temp gets up to 45f + Paste.

If temps below 43f coincide with high coloured water, fish a stillwater for another species:( (only my opinion of course);)

Either way, 'as long as you have a bait in the water, there's always a chance'.:)
 
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