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Sonubait's Retailing Elips pellets

Jon Frisby

Jon Frisby

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Just for info Sonubaits are retailing Elips Pellets, which should make them a bit more accessible for us anglers. £3.75p a kilo which i thought was good value, has anyone tried them yet?.
 
Its generally not available up here where i come from. I would have to mail order which i have done a few times from Hinders. To me its more readily available now.

Jon
 
I have ordered today 10 kg Ellips from Bristol Bait Supplies for £22.00
thats £2.20 per kg
Dave

http://www.bristolbaitsupplies.co.uk/pellets.htm


Elips Pellet Mix
A combination of small, medium and large elips pellets, containing high levels of oil and protein. Perfect for fishing over silt or flowing water due to their pillow-like shape. A great mix to give varied breakdown times and prolong attraction.

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5kg - £12.20 | 10kg - £22.00
 
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They are £20.95 for 10kg from Hinders but if you order 20kg thats down to £38.95 or £1.95 a kilo;). I guess its time we formed regional bulk buys could save a fortune.
 
Scrub that £36 for 20kgs from Bristol Bait supplies or £1.80 a kilo.
 
Fair comment Adrian. Before recently I was getting through 15kg (pellet, ground pellet paste & particles) of bait in a 16 hour session & at times I felt could have still fed more.

Very water dependant.

Cheers, Jon
 
I must admit I was being conservative for fear of stirring up the Trefor West clones with their 6 pellet approach. Granted that works well on the Teme but if you're on a decent shoal on the Trent you have to feed to hold them. Surprising what you can go through a handful every cast and casting every ten or fifteen mins to build the swim.
 
Adrian Williams said:
I must admit I was being conservative for fear of stirring up the Trefor West clones with their 6 pellet approach. Granted that works well on the Teme but if you're on a decent shoal on the Trent you have to feed to hold them. Surprising what you can go through a handful every cast and casting every ten or fifteen mins to build the swim.
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It's a whole different world Adrian. I would love to have a bash at a river like that, but I would have to buy a whole new set of gear to do it. The feeder made out of a galvanised bucket with holes punched in it would be the easy bit :D:D:D

Cheers, Dave.
 
Common sense is the key to feeding.

Size of river, general fish density, weather conditions, river flow, size of bait etc.

There isn't a one size fits all, thats why I get/got really upset at one anglers view that Barbel anglers don't feed enough without a clarification. (this after seeing 5kg dropped into the river Loddon one day)

I have fished the Trent and had more than 20 barbel on quite a few occasions with less than 2 kg groundbait and 1/2 kg pellets. Certainly they sometimes do need a bit of bait to get them active, however, I always try the minimal approach first. But each to their own - with consideration to others.

Graham (never been with a barbel guide:rolleyes: )
 
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It's all down to building a swim in my opinion Graham, the old adage which says, "you can put it in but you cant take it out", is as true today as it ever was and I have seen many a good swim kn@ckered by an angler thoughtlessly piling in several pints of bait at the start of a session with no regard to the conditions.

As you know I am quite adept at fishing the smaller rivers as well as the big ones and on rivers such as the Dove or the Teme I would never go in blind with kilos of bait.

As an example, I'm learning my way round a length of the Dove at the moment. This is a well known stretch to many but new to me so I've looked at what others are doing and their results and worked out what is working and what ain't. As a result I've come up with a few theories of what is happening and decided to approach it old school with quantities of loose fed hemp.
I honestly don't believe you can overfeed with hemp, laced with small quantities of micro pellet it has the effect of attracting the fish, (the scent from the pellet), and holding the fish in the swim (the reward of the hemp buried in the gravel) without overfeeding them. The only substantial food item in the swim is the hookbait.

So far its working well and I am catching multiple fish on each visit from a stretch which many are struggling on. In fact I've not blanked on there yet though I'm sure that day will come.
My baiting strategy is based on the age old little and often and I'm feeding by catapult well upstream of my fishing position allowing for depth and flow to get the feed where I want it.
Rather than tight baiting I'm looking to spread the bait all over the river within my fishing area to get the fish searching for food.
As well as the loose feed I'm using scalded pellets packed tight in a cage feeder with a long hooklength in the clear stretches and a method feeder with a short hooklength in the weedy bits but that is only for attraction, my main feed is the regular top up of loose feed.

Contrast that to a typical day on the Trent.
The bit I'm fishing is quite prolific and I know the swims well. In the Summer I'm quite confident to dropper a pint of small pellets into the swim as I'm setting up and another one as I start fishing, I use a home made feeder the size of a small bird feeder and pack it with small pellets, (3 or 4mm) lightly dampened and topped off with damp pellet crumb. I recast this every ten minutes or so but quite often I have hooked a fish before then. You know when the feeder is empty when the line bites dry up and the tip remains still for a few minutes.
I'm using bog standard Sketerings high oil pellets these days at about £1.20 Kg, (my association with T7 was terminated amiably because I don't publicise my catches), so the cost is not prohibitive. On this particular fishery the shoal moves around and if you don't feed they drift off. I know a few people who fish there who don't feed as heavy and this is reflected in their catches......
On the Teme I use the old West/Mason 6 pellet approach.... I think it will take allot of beating for that river unless it's in flood of course which is when I break out the meat; that however is a whole different subject for another day..
On the faster reaches of the Severn I use a stepped down Trent approach as I do on the Wye whereas on the lower Severn if I'm not float fishing or going for the bream I tend to use the bait and wait in the margin approach as advocated by Messrs Smith and Horak.

For anyone new to this game the approaches I have outlined above are simply possible starting points. Bait and it's application is a huge subject and is dictated by many different circumstances, everything I have said above could and probably will be countered and argued against....And quite rightly to.......They are simply starting points and any angler worth his salt will sum up his swim and the conditions on the day and feed accordingly. You never stop learning in this game and every time you thing you have got it sussed something happens to make you think again.
 
When I'm at work fishing the Bristol Avon, its a more stealthy approach,a few loose pellets wait and gently drop in my baited rig, I'll walk the bank for miles fish spotting, carry everything in a small backpack....

I'm going on the Tidal Trent whilst I'm home this thursday, I've been out today got 8kg of groundbait, 4kg feed pellets and I'm looking to order a gallon of maggots for some trotting during the day, a completely different approach but both catch on their respective rivers.....
 
It sems we agree Adrian.

You said

....And quite rightly to.......They are simply starting points and any angler worth his salt will sum up his swim and the conditions on the day and feed accordingly.

I said

Common sense is the key to feeding.

Size of river, general fish density, weather conditions, river flow, size of bait etc.

Graham
 
Andrew Firth said:
When I'm at work fishing the Bristol Avon, its a more stealthy approach,a few loose pellets wait and gently drop in my baited rig, I'll walk the bank for miles fish spotting, carry everything in a small backpack....

I'm going on the Tidal Trent whilst I'm home this thursday, I've been out today got 8kg of groundbait, 4kg feed pellets and I'm looking to order a gallon of maggots for some trotting during the day, a completely different approach but both catch on their respective rivers.....
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You wont go wrong with a gallon of maggots,a bit of hemp mixed in works well,too.
 
i like the hinders pellets, especially for the Teme, but i am also a big fan of bankside tackle's baits. The grubber pellets are a great option, as are the boilies and paste that go with it.

all the best, bw
 
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£3.75 a kilo:eek:, 'avin a larf ain't they ?!! I've got 2 X 5kg bags (unopened), 20 quid you can have the lot (pick-up only), just send me a pm.

Can get more if required as my pellet man has tons.:eek::)
 
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